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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 03:48pm
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Alright officials, we are either 1/3 or 1/2 way into our seasons. Not that we enjoy having to do it, but how many Ts have you issued so far & what level.

Out of 30 gms just 4 for me (2 on varsity players, 1 on jv bench & 1 pre-game dunk varsity).
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 03:56pm
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- One to a boys MS coach after I warned him for his bench's chirping about non-calls. (That's a foul, over the back, travel, etc) I guess he didn't like it that I was warning his bench so he told me "I'm just getting started" in a rather loud voice while exiting his box walking toward the endline.

- One in a boys JV game for reaching over the boundary line and slapping the ball.

- One last night during a boys 8th grade game. It was the championship game of a tournament. The two teams were from the same city. We had each warned the visitors about chirping. I called a foul on one of the V's players for a hold. He turns right toward me and says "What....come on!!" Whack. The coaches can't fathom why I would T him. They said he was just showing emotion. Yeah....right.

Edit: Oh yeah, one more administrative T for adding a player to the book. I didn't give any last year and that's four for me this year. Should be five but I called a kid for an intentional and not a T during another boys JV game.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 03:57pm
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25 games, still 0-fer.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:00pm
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15 games or so, 1 T. JV girls, administrative T (adding player to book midway into 1st quarter.)
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:07pm
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15 BV/GV so far and zero personally...would have had one but my partner got the whistle to his lips quicker than I did on a HC...only other one in any of my games was a player telling my partner "you suck"....thought he should handle that himself...coaches have been unusually subdued this year in my games, no idea what it is? El Nino?
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:10pm
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about 20 games and 2 -- 1 BV and 1 BJV, both on players for being overy demonstrative after a call. The JV one surprisingly was a call that went his way.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:14pm
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26 games to date; 2 admin T's for players not in the book.

The first and only coach T was last weekend in a frosh game, when the visiting coach got in my face and said, "you've GOT to call that travel!"

It turns out that I did not have to after all.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:12pm
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20 games college 11 high school

2 NCAAM DIII same game 3 games
Player gave C the F foul and the infamose dead ball dunk

0 NCAAW DIII 9 games

0 NJCAAW 8 games

2 Boys VHS 4 games
1 coach behavior problems 1 admin

1 girls VHS 5 games
Little lady had a potty mouth

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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:37pm
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Four (4) technical fouls:

TF #1: Head Coach of a girls' H.S. varsity team during a scrimmage game (4th scrimmage of the season; 1 men's college, 4 girls' H.S., and 3 boys' H.S.). I also issued the appropriate reminder that a second TF would require disqualification from the game. See Footnote #1.


TF #2: My third game of the season (1 men's college and 1 girls' H.S. before this game) is a boys' Jr. H.S. doubleheader (7th grade followed by 8th grade). Early in the first quarter of the 7th grade game, I am T, TS, and turn to go to L and have the V-HC standing past the S/TT, almost in front of the Home Bench. I walk him back to his coaching box as I go to my L position and remind him to stay in the Coaching Box. H1 intecepts a pass in the Mid-court (you young whippersnappers will have to go back over thirty years to learn about the MC Area) area and is racing down the court toward Team H's basket. V-HC beats me across the division line (MTD, Jr. will tell you that is not difficult to do, ) as I go from L to T. WHACK!! And he says to me: "How can you call that in a 7th grade game?" And this coach is a H.S. baseball umpire in MichiganHSAA and is a former girls' H.S. varsity coach.


TF #3: My third game of the season (1 men's college and 1 girls' H.S. before this game) is a boys' Jr. H.S. doubleheader (7th grade followed by 8th grade). Early in the second quarter, V6 goes completely out-of-bounds to guard H1 who is attempting a throw-in after a Team V field goal. There is ten feet of space behind each endline on this court and the H1 was about six feet away from the endline and V6 was close enough to him to be considered closely guarding him under NCAA Women's and FIBA rules. Appropriate official warning was issued. Early in the third quarter, H1 has ball out-of-bounds for a sideline throw-in when V6 (the same one that caused the warning in the second quarter) goes complete out-of-bounds to guard H1. WHACK!


TF #4: My third game of the season (1 men's college and 1 girls' H.S. before this game) is a boys' Jr. H.S. doubleheader (7th grade followed by 8th grade). Early in the fourth quarter V6 (yes the same player from TF #3) misses a layup and then fouls H2 in attempt to get the rebound. V6 didn't think he commited a foul and slammed the ball to the floor to show is displeasure with my foul call. WHACK!


Footnote #1: Why was the reminder necessary you ask since it was only a scrimmage game? Scrimmage games can be conducted pretty much anyway the coaches want to conduct them. That mean's it can be running clock periods; no free throw except for shooting fouls; no periods at all, just situaional scrimmaging; etc. But the OhioHSAA does regulate how many scrimmages a team can participate in a season and how long a scrimmage can last. And because soccer can be such an out-of-control sport, flagrant conduct, now matter what the sport or level of competition, is to be penalized. In other words, flagrant conduct is flagrant conduct. And had this HC received a second TF during the scrimmage, not only would he have had to sit out the first two varsity games of the season (as well as not be on the bench for any jr. varsity, and freshmen games until the first two varsity game of the season had been played) he would have had to play the ejection fine that coaches must pay (only checks drawn on the coaches personal checking accoung, money orders, or certified bank checks are exceptable; a check drawn on a school accout will automatically be rejected) as well as complete the mandatory online sportsmanship course (we officials call it the anger management course).

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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:41pm
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Man, if coach is getting T'd up in scrimmages, then I know he's getting ran in real games.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:47pm
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Four (4) technical fouls:

TF #2: boys' Jr. H.S.

TF #3: boys' Jr. H.S.

TF #4: boys' Jr. H.S.
I am sensing a pattern here
you probably need to avoid boys' Jr. H.S. games
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 05:27pm
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I am sensing a pattern here
you probably need to avoid boys' Jr. H.S. games

And all in the same game to boot. And nothing close before or since then (knock on wood).

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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 05:49pm
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I've had 2. Of course, both were in JH games. I've only worked 8 JH games and have had 2 T's in them.

The first one came when I called a 5 second count on a team. The coach thought that the count should restart since the defender "took a step backwards" (he was still well within the 6 foot radius). He told me I need to learn the rule. *tweet*

My 2nd one came when A1 shot the ball and then ran and caught his own airball. My partner called a foul on the ensuing shot and the coach was irate saying that it's a travel when that happens. I told him that you are allowed to do so and he was being very demonstrative and screaming that I was wrong. *tweet*
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:59pm
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A few T's in wreck leagues out of maybe 150 games I've done so far.
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Old Sat Jan 10, 2009, 09:49am
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I am on a roll...

In the past 4 game nights I have issued 3:

JV Boys coach who wanted one.
Warned him about chirping/whining with "Coach you can be up in your box coaching your kids..."
Like I say, he wanted it

Freshman boys player for slamming ball in anger. (h/t to DeeCee)

JV Girls coach who wanted one.
Warned him about chirping/whining with "Coach you can be up in your box coaching your kids..."
Like I say, he wanted it (deja vu all over again.)


Prior to that.... a couple maybe...
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