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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 08:03pm
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B-Mac,

I'm talking about after the ball hits the backboard on an attempted shot and its on the way towards the cylinder, can a defender just come and slap it off with no goaltending being called?

And for reference, please DO NOT use the reference of what happened last night in the Gonzaga-Tennessee game -- that was blatant basket interference.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 08:05pm
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B-Mac,

I'm talking about after the ball hits the backboard on an attempted shot and its on the way towards the cylinder, can a defender just come and slap it off with no goaltending being called?

And for reference, please DO NOT use the reference of what happened last night in the Gonzaga-Tennessee game -- that was blatant basket interference.

REALLY?

Says who?
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 09:07pm
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You Asked About Goaltending, Not Basketball Interference ...

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I'm talking about after the ball hits the backboard on an attempted shot and its on the way towards the cylinder, can a defender just come and slap it off with no goaltending being called?
NFHS:
Ball on upward trajectory, outside cylinder: No violation
Ball on downward trajectory, outside cylinder: Goaltending
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 11:47pm
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B-Mac,

I'm talking about after the ball hits the backboard on an attempted shot and its on the way towards the cylinder, can a defender just come and slap it off with no goaltending being called?

And for reference, please DO NOT use the reference of what happened last night in the Gonzaga-Tennessee game -- that was blatant basket interference.
You might want to check the thread about that game.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 04:59am
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Not that I'm remedial, but can one of you rule gurus please pass me the rule real quick for goaltending in HS where a shot cannot be blocked/deflected once it has already hit the backboard?
No, we can't. It doesn't exist.

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B-Mac,

I'm talking about after the ball hits the backboard on an attempted shot and its on the way towards the cylinder, can a defender just come and slap it off with no goaltending being called?

And for reference, please DO NOT use the reference of what happened last night in the Gonzaga-Tennessee game -- that was blatant basket interference.
Did the Tennessee player touch the ball? No.
Did the Tennessee player touch the basket while the ball was ON or WITHIN the BASKET? No.
Do you understand that a player is allowed to touch the basket while the ball is in the imaginary cylinder above the basket? No.

Congratulations, it takes real effort to be so wrong twice in a single thread!

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I would welcome this newbie, but he likely won't be here long.

Unfortunately, we probably can't help him anyway. His beliefs seem to be quite firm. It's tough to teach someone the right way when his mind is closed and he is already SO committed to a misconception.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 07:01am
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I believe this could be tossed in as one of the most misunderstood rules. I graded our associations test and the question that matched this sitch was easily the most missed question.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 07:18am
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Who You Gonna Call ???

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I believe this could be tossed in as one of the most misunderstood rules.
See post #3.
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Old Fri Jan 09, 2009, 08:56am
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B-Mac,

I'm talking about after the ball hits the backboard on an attempted shot and its on the way towards the cylinder, can a defender just come and slap it off with no goaltending being called?

And for reference, please DO NOT use the reference of what happened last night in the Gonzaga-Tennessee game -- that was blatant basket interference.
the difference is that in NCAA this year, if a defender contacts a shot after it hits the backboard (ball has to be completely above rim) it is to be considered on it's downward flight and therefore goal tending.

this rule interpretation does not apply to NFHS

Regarding the Gonz -Tenn reference you need to check the NCAA rule - it requires that the player reaching through the rim contact the ball for there to be BI which did not occur.
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