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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 03:40pm
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Snaq,

My partner and i talked about that after the game. we figured it probably would have been the best course of action to call an IW. Tell both coaches i had my head up my butt and go to the arrow. The ball had been shot so there was no longer team possession when I blew the whistle.

I think i shocked myself with the fact that I blew my whistle.
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Snaq,

My partner and i talked about that after the game. we figured it probably would have been the best course of action to call an IW. Tell both coaches i had my head up my butt and go to the arrow. The ball had been shot so there was no longer team possession when I blew the whistle.

I think i shocked myself with the fact that I blew my whistle.
Did the shot miss? Either way, I think eating an IW there would have been less messy than eating a bad foul call.

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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 03:59pm
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Snaq,

My partner and i talked about that after the game. we figured it probably would have been the best course of action to call an IW. Tell both coaches i had my head up my butt and go to the arrow. The ball had been shot so there was no longer team possession when I blew the whistle.

I think i shocked myself with the fact that I blew my whistle.
Wait a sec...so you told the coach there was no foul...and reported a foul anyway???? This whole time I assumed you had gone with an IW after you told the coach...That just isn't right:

(to coach): Coach, I blew it...there was no foul. Sorry.
(turns to table): Red two-three. Block. 2 shots.

Ouch...

You're lucky you got a sympathetic coach. I would think most of them would chew you out the rest of the night...
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 04:01pm
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I'm pretty sure he reported the foul first, then later told the coach it was a mistake.

But you're right, I'd rather tell a coach I screwed up and didn't see a foul that he did than tell him I didn't see a foul but called one anyway. I probably would have admitted to him I'd like to have the call back, not sure how much more info I would have offered.
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I'm pretty sure he reported the foul first, then later told the coach it was a mistake.
That might even be funnier:

(to table): Red two-three. Block. 2 shots.
(turns to coach): Coach, I blew it...there was no foul. Sorry.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 05:07pm
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It is funny now, but at the time I was not happy with myself. I blew it. Plain and simple. the coach was just fine when I told him I blew the call. I guess I"ll learn from this and next time go with an IW.
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Old Mon Dec 22, 2008, 05:23pm
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That might even be funnier:

(to table): Red two-three. Block. 2 shots.
(turns to coach): Coach, I blew it...there was no foul. Sorry.
I'm assuming more time elapsed, but I could be wrong.
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IW Question

Does an IW cause the ball to become dead immediately? In the OP, if the IW came after A1 started the motion for a try, and the ball went in, can you count the basket and just give the ball to B?

Or, is the ball dead immediately, and you have to go to AP since neither team had control at the time of the whistle?
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Does an IW cause the ball to become dead immediately? In the OP, if the IW came after A1 started the motion for a try, and the ball went in, can you count the basket and just give the ball to B?

Or, is the ball dead immediately, and you have to go to AP since neither team had control at the time of the whistle?
The ball is dead immediately, unless a try is already in the air. Habitual motion does not apply.

So, if the try had been released, and the shot is made, POI (which you always go to on an IW) would be the endline throwin for B.

If the try had been released and the shot missed, you go to the arrow.

If the try had not been released, you give the ball back to A.
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