Multiple pre-game dunks.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

In this case, there is no relationship with him. He's otta there. In Ohio, a coach's ejection comes with a $100.00 fine, a two game suspension and the mandatory completion of an on-line course with the OHSAA that includes subjects like anger management (which I think he would need for the next practice). Frankly, if his team is that undisciplined, he deserves it.

I agree with Nevada Ref. The R is a coward and has no place doing Varsity level work if he's going to set aside rules like that.

I had a kid dunk in pregame right as we hit the court. (They didn't know we were there yet). I called him over and told him I wanted him to go tell his coach why the other team was going to start the game with two free throws and the ball and his coach has to sit all night. The look on his face was priceless.

Telling the kid to do it is avoiding your job, IMO.

The second and third dunks shouldn't have happened. If I'm going to call a technical foul for this, I'm digging my whistle out from inside my shirt and making everyone aware of what just happened. I sureashell am not going to allow a second and third dunk to happen.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Telling the kid to do it is avoiding your job, IMO.

The second and third dunks shouldn't have happened. If I'm going to call a technical foul for this, I'm digging my whistle out from inside my shirt and making everyone aware of what just happened. I sureashell am not going to allow a second and third dunk to happen.

You might wish to refresh yourself on the proper mechanic for handling a pregame dunk because you're completely wrong.

[Ignats75]

I didn't say thats what I did. Thats what I told the kid he was going to have to do.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You might wish to refresh yourself on the proper mechanic for handling a pregame dunk because you're completely wrong.

I couldn't possibly care what the book mechanic is here.

[BigTex]

Most guys in the association I used to work give a tweet when they walk out. Their rationale was that now the players know we are here and they will not dunk. I have never liked that, I think it brings undue attention to the crew. The players and coaches know not to dunk, penalize when necessary.

Anyone else blow the whistle when they eneter?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigTex

Most guys in the association I used to work give a tweet when they walk out. Their rationale was that now the players know we are here and they will not dunk. I have never liked that, I think it brings undue attention to the crew. The players and coaches know not to dunk, penalize when necessary.

Anyone else blow the whistle when they eneter?

I've heard other Texas refs say they do this. I'm not sure it's done anywhere else, though. I've never seen it done.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BigTex

Most guys in the association I used to work give a tweet when they walk out. Their rationale was that now the players know we are here and they will not dunk. I have never liked that, I think it brings undue attention to the crew. The players and coaches know not to dunk, penalize when necessary.

Anyone else blow the whistle when they eneter?

Prior thread on this topic: Whistle upon taking the court pregame

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You might wish to refresh yourself on the proper mechanic for handling a pregame dunk because you're completely wrong.

I agree completely.

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I couldn't possibly care what the book mechanic is here.

I agree completely.

[icallfouls]

Had this situation several years ago, when I was starting to get V games, although we only had 2 dunks during warmups by the same player. This is more interesting than 3 in my opinion, because the team lost its best player, and kept one of the most difficult coaches in the game but required to sit the entire game.

My partner, R, had the T's on his end, I only saw one of them, the home team coach sees the whole thing. What made this more difficult is my experienced partner only wanted to give one T, and let the coach use the box. I looked at him and said "it's your call, and by the way, the rulebook will not support you either."

Middle of the first qtr, his team commits a foul and we are shooting FT's, he is up, complaining about the call. I go over and remind him that he must coach from the seated position. His reply "who are you?", "why are you talking to me?" My reply, "I am trying to keep you in this game, its a better game with you here." From then on it was all gravy. It probably helped that he destroyed the home team anyway. The dunker went on to win a state championship, and an NCAA championship at Kansas.

[referee99]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

"it's your call, and by the way, the rulebook will not support you either."

"I am trying to keep you in this game, its a better game with you here."

I'll be stealing both of those, thank you!

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You might wish to refresh yourself on the proper mechanic for handling a pregame dunk because you're completely wrong.

Thought that might be the case, but can you clarify what you meant to him?

Also, wondering what the response is to Skarecrow's:
Still no answer to my question....Don't we IMMEDIATELY advise the coach? Why can we then have subsequent disqualifying T's called on the same player?

Just wanna get it right ...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Amesman

Thought that might be the case, but can you clarify what you meant to him?

Also, wondering what the response is to Skarecrow's:
Still no answer to my question....Don't we IMMEDIATELY advise the coach? Why can we then have subsequent disqualifying T's called on the same player?

Just wanna get it right ...

It's possible, even if you head directly for the coach, that the knucklehead would do it again before you got to the coach.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

It's possible, even if you head directly for the coach, that the knucklehead would do it again before you got to the coach.

Good point. To get back to what I think Skarecrow was alluding to, then do you just keep a mental scorecard as you observe and then let the coaches and book know at 0:00 who dunked, how many times, etc. (these things can come in bunches if it starts happening at all), why coach will be collecting splinters all night, etc.? And the mechanic?

[Adam]

Honestly, I'm with Rich on the mechanics. Don't know and have a hard time caring.

If I see it, I'll tell the player when i get his attention. I'll also get his number at that time, and walk over to the coach and let him know. I'll then tell the scorer and the other coach. Unless someone can give me a compellling reason to do it differently.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Honestly, I'm with Rich on the mechanics. Don't know and have a hard time caring.

If I see it, I'll tell the player when i get his attention. I'll also get his number at that time, and walk over to the coach and let him know. I'll then tell the scorer and the other coach. Unless someone can give me a compellling reason to do it differently.

I'm waiting for someone to make an argument that maybe someone on the other team might dunk and only the first dunk would get penalized.

But that's not my problem. I am most likely (unless I can't get away with it) going to try to prevent starting the game with a technical, but if someone slams one home I'll take care of it and by extension prevent any more from happening.

With my luck, this will all happen tonight.