Foul on jump ball to start game

[MidMadness]

Before the ball leaves the referees hand......Team B jumper is grabbing team A's wrist as if to hold him down. Umpire blows whistle and calls a foul on B1. This is a dead ball foul, would it have to be a technical?? Intentional??? Thanks

[Rich]

Originally Posted by MidMadness

Before the ball leaves the referees hand......Team B jumper is grabbing team A's wrist as if to hold him down. Umpire blows whistle and calls a foul on B1. This is a dead ball foul, would it have to be a technical?? Intentional??? Thanks

Theoretical - I would step in and tell him to knock it off and then go back to my usual position.

Sorry, I know that's not the answer you're looking for

[mbyron]

If the ball's still dead, I'd call a T.

Not intentional, since neither player has an advantageous position to be neutralized.

[Adam]

Either a T or nothing. In this case, I'd do as Rich suggests. Tell him to knock it off, hand the ball to the thrower, and then call it a personal foul if he continues.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Either a T or nothing. In this case, I'd do as Rich suggests. Tell him to knock it off, hand the ball to the thrower, and then call it a personal foul if he continues.

Opening jump. Makes it even more unlikely I'd call anything here, although this is what needs to be called if anything.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Either a T or nothing. In this case, I'd do as Rich suggests. Tell him to knock it off, hand the ball to the thrower, and then call it a personal foul if he continues.

Since this is during a jump ball, how did you end up with the ball?

Anyway, I like doing what Rich suggests, especially if there will be a few seconds before the ball is tossed; that could save the inevitable "patty-cake" that usually goes on. Or you could hold the whistle until after the ball is tossed and immediately call the foul, which sends the message that your crew isn't going to put up with that kind of crap that night.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

Since this is during a jump ball, how did you end up with the ball?

1. I'm the R.
2. Shut up.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mbyron

If the ball's still dead, I'd call a T.

Not intentional, since neither player has an advantageous position to be neutralized.

You are a bit confused. Because this action takes place during a dead ball period, if called, the foul MUST be technical. However, it is only to be called if it is intentional or flagrant, otherwise the contact is to be ignored by rule.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by MidMadness

Before the ball leaves the referees hand......Team B jumper is grabbing team A's wrist as if to hold him down. Umpire blows whistle and calls a foul on B1. This is a dead ball foul, would it have to be a technical?? Intentional??? Thanks

I agree with others, I would tell them to knock it off....

[OHBBREF]

What would you do if it was a throw in and before the ball is at the disposal there is jostling for position or some tugging going on?
I make sure that it is addressed openly so everyone in the gym knows we see it, before we have to call a foul of some sort here with a dead ball.

We specifically cover these types of things in pre-game so we are all on the same page, IMO if you step in and stop this action before hand, especially on the jump, it will go along way toward a better evening, than having to give a non-administrative T before we even have the toss.

The impression given right away about being in control of things should make for a much better game.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by OHBBREF

What would you do if it was a throw in and before the ball is at the disposal there is jostling for position or some tugging going on?

This is one of my favorite bits of game management. I'm about to hand/bounce the ball to the thrower and notice two boneheads going at, banging like they were going for a rebound in the final seconds of a one point game. I'll just stand there and watch. Because of the noticeable delay in getting the ball live, everybody in the place is soon staring at them. They usually realize it fairly quickly, give me a sheepish grin, and calm right down. I don't even have to say a word.

[AKOFL]

perfect place for preventive officiating. A few words at the right time go a long way. The players will apreciate it even if they don't say so. I remember I did when I played

[Freddy]

Before the jump ball is administered, a foul is called on A1 who illegally contacts B1 to the extent that it is not merely incidental and could not be ignored. This is an intentional technical foul because it's during dead ball. By rule, does the A team coach lose his coaching box?

[SNIPERBBB]

Originally Posted by Freddy

Before the jump ball is administered, a foul is called on A1 who illegally contacts B1 to the extent that it is not merely incidental and could not be ignored. This is an intentional technical foul because it's during dead ball. By rule, does the A team coach lose his coaching box?

I'm sure the OP had this figured out in the 12 years since his original post

[Freddy]

I customarily do a search before I post a question. My search came up with that thread which is admittedly old. However it did not include consideration of the actual question I have. So please entertain my actual question and if you have any feedback that can help me I would appreciate it.