Double Whistle Situation

[TravelinMan]

I think this is why calling outside your primary can get a crew into trouble, especially with a block/charge play.

Am I correct in stating that:

in 2 man - official who has play "coming to him/her" has primary responsibility to make the block/charge call.

in 3 man - official has block/charge call if play starts in his/her area. e.g., if drive to basket starts in T's area he/she has block/charge call all the way even though play finishes in Lead's area.

[jritchie]

That is why pre-game is so important to talk about these very situations.
Blarge = double foul, go with POI, ball back to offensive team or arrow if it's after release of shot, to start over and see if they do better this time.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by jritchie

That is why pre-game is so important to talk about these very situations.
Blarge = double foul, go with POI, ball back to offensive team to start over and see if they do better this time.

Not necessarily.

[Skarecrow]

Originally Posted by jritchie

That is why pre-game is so important to talk about these very situations.
Blarge = double foul, go with POI, ball back to offensive team or arrow if it's after release of shot, to start over and see if they do better this time.

If we have a "blarge," we have two officials calling two fouls which are necessarily mutually exclusive....therefore, one of the officials got it wrong.....You can't have LGP, draw a charge, have a double whistle and then get penalized for having the LGP...the Key Operative Word is LEGAL....How do we penalize that kid for having a LEGAL guarding position? They need to confer and get the call right.....either he had the LGP or he didn't....If not, then he gets the block, and there is no Charge!.....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by TravelinMan

I think this is why calling outside your primary can get a crew into trouble, especially with a block/charge play.

Am I correct in stating that:

in 2 man - official who has play "coming to him/her" has primary responsibility to make the block/charge call.

in 3 man - official has block/charge call if play starts in his/her area. e.g., if drive to basket starts in T's area he/she has block/charge call all the way even though play finishes in Lead's area.

There are shared primary areas, though. There's even one area shared by three officials that can (and does) lead to a triple whistle.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

There are shared primary areas, though. There's even one area shared by three officials that can (and does) lead to a triple whistle.

You should check the current NFHS Officials Manual. The dual coverage area was dropped a couple of years ago.

[TravelinMan]

So what does the rest of the forum think about pre-gaming blarge this way. i.e., primary responsibility. This is the way they addressed blarge in NY and NC. I'd have a very difficult time selling a double foul. I would rather avoid the blarge AT ALL COSTS. Jack BTW Wish everybody a Happy Thanksgiving. This forum has helped me so much in improving as an official.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by TravelinMan

I'd have a very difficult time selling a double foul.

Why?

I would rather avoid the blarge AT ALL COSTS.

Why?

[TravelinMan]

Scrapper -

I am of the opinion that you can't have both a charge and a block on the same play. It is either one or the other. That is why I try to avoid it at all costs. It's kinda like a crocogator. That's an animal with the upper body of a crocodile and the lower body of an alligator. It's the meanest animal alive. You would be too if you couldn't take a S***!

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by TravelinMan

I am of the opinion that you can't have both a charge and a block on the same play. It is either one or the other.

While I am of the same opinion as you, the rules (case plays) tell us EXPLICITLY that when officials give differing signals, you assess both as a double foul. It doesn't matter at all whether I am of this OPINION or not.

And as for selling it, it's amazingly easy. You just start the sentence by saying, "Coach, BY RULE. . ."