I blew one last night..

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

There's no such thing as a controlled tap. Either the player establishes control -- holding or dribbling the live ball inbounds -- or he doesn't. Ask yourself this: would you have granted a time-out to the player if he'd asked for it during his "controlled tap". If the answer is no, then NO VIOLATION.

So if an offensive player is fouled while tapping back a missed shot, you would not award free throw(s)?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

So if an offensive player is fouled while tapping back a missed shot, you would not award free throw(s)?

That is not correct. NFHS 4-1-1 specifically says that a player who jumps and taps the ball toward the goal is an airborne shooter.

One of our most basic definitions is that a player is in control of the ball when s/he is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. Period. That's the only 2 ways to have player control. Batting or tapping the ball does NOT establish player control. Therefore, there is no such thing as a "controlled tap".

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

That is not correct. NFHS 4-1-1 specifically says that a player who jumps and taps the ball toward the goal is an airborne shooter.

One of our most basic definitions is that a player is in control of the ball when s/he is holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds. Period. That's the only 2 ways to have player control. Batting or tapping the ball does NOT establish player control. Therefore, there is no such thing as a "controlled tap".

Actually 4-1-1 says "has tapped (past tense) the ball and has not returned to the floor." Either way, that play isn't quite the same. 4-12-1 says "holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds." So I guess it comes down to your definition of holding a ball. I'd call it a gray area. One could say that controlling the ball to tap it is "holding" it, even if just for a moment. The opposite could be argued as well.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

A One could say that controlling the ball to tap it is "holding" it, even if just for a moment.

And one would be wrong. The ball would have to "come to rest" in the hand even for a split second for it to be considered being "held".

Remember - there's a huge difference between "holding" a keg and "tapping" a keg.

[CoachP]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

So if an offensive player is fouled while tapping back a missed shot, you would not award free throw(s)?

Isn't a "tap" a "try" as long as you are attempting to make a basket?

Scrapper beat me....

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by CoachP

Isn't a "tap" a "try" as long as you are attempting to make a basket?

Scrapper beat me....

And you both beat me........