Yelling In The Crowd (Another Official)

[ILRef80]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

While I agree that the use of your name was completely unprofessional and should not have been done, I also understand the "dad" yelling about calls - I have been known to do the same thing from time to time. I never use any adjectives or other words to describe a call (That's a horrible call, etc.)...but when my sons are playing, I have a hard time not noticing things that are just not right. Example: son establishes LGP and then gets rolled by the kid driving to the basket - ref calls block on son. Explanation to coach is "He was moving backwards coach, never got set. He needs to take it like a man to get a charge call from me." I said some things to that official - and when he brought it up at a meeting several weeks later, he heard the same things again. The notion that someone has to stop being a dad just because they are an official is incorrect. I need to remain calm, and have had to get up and walk out of gyms at times, but when something blatantly wrong occurs, I will say something to the officials. I will never call them by name, I will never call them out, but I will say "How can that be...?"

I would have no problem with this. In the situation you described, they are simply not applying the rule correctly. It's a common myth that the defender has to be "set" in order to take a charge. Most officials know that's not the case, but I can see where newer officials may not have conquered that myth. I think it would be fine to approach the official (perhaps not at that particular game) and politely explain the rule.

[btaylor64]

I personally think this should be handled "in house". I don't think there is any need to talk to the assignor. JMO

[Adam]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I personally think this should be handled "in house". I don't think there is any need to talk to the assignor. JMO

To me, this largely depends on how bad the behavior was.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

To me, this largely depends on how bad the behavior was.

Well like i said its in house. If he is acting half as bad as a crazed fan i am going to acknowledge him and tell him (wouldn't do this normally, but i know him AND he's an official) to cut it out. if he persists then i will eject him with no worries or doubts and then i guarantee you we will have it out after the game or in the lockeroom of our game together. After that it will be over and if he wants to continue with it and act unprofessional, i will let him hang himself by acting the same way to another crew and when he does, both crews can take it to the assignor, so you can show it is more than an isolated incident. But i am going to attempt to take care of it privately and it will also give him a blackeye when i eject him.

I think it is healthy sometimes to have it out with your partners and have lively, and even sometimes heated debate, but we as a crew and as an individual cannot and must not let it leak onto the floor.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I personally think this should be handled "in house". I don't think there is any need to talk to the assignor. JMO

Why? The guy's poor behavior and criticism of his fellow official was clearly public.

[OHBBREF]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

I personally think this should be handled "in house". I don't think there is any need to talk to the assignor. JMO

What would you do if this was just an fan, who got out of line?

I would hold the official to a higher standard than the fan so if you deal with the fan by having them tossed you have to toss this clown, and if you just have the administration talk to him about his actions you at least do the same for this guy.

Once you have him bounced or dealt with it becomes an issue for the school and the kid probably wants his dad tossed anyway for making a fool of himself.

your choice with the assignors but I don't care if that guy was the assignor I am not tolerating that behavior from a fan I really am not going to take it from a brother official.