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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 05:01pm
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Don't know how to handle this or if it should be handled at all but...
A1 on a fast break driving to the hole for a layup B1 running in behind yelling loudly to try to screw up A1's rythme as he lays it up... Hope I described this OK... I'm sure a lot of you have seen this and know what I mean (girls do it A LOT)... Is there anything wrong with this action and can it be punished ??? I went home with a wicked headache last night because 1 player kept doing this all game....
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 05:07pm
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I've said it before and I'm sure I'll say it again...this is not golf. Yelling is allowed. While it may be annoying, including for the officials, it is perfectly legal.
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 05:53pm
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My opinion is and has always been that this is unsporting. It's not in any way part of playing the game. There is no effort to play the ball. In fact, yelling like that is usually an indication that the defender has been beaten badly and can't play defense anymore. I really do think it's unsporting and should be punished by a technical foul.
Unfortunately, my opinion in this case is not supported by the rules.  Chuck
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 06:21pm
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I had this exact thing happen in a Freshman A game (Illinois). The ball handler had badly beaten the defender so the defender came running up behind the player and screamed at the top of his lungs. I immediatley "T" him up for unsportsmanlike conduct and explained to the coach that this can't be done because it puts that offensive player in fear of physical harm to his body from a hard foul from behind and it is just plain unsporting. That same situation will get you a yellow card in soccer. One yellow card in soccer is the equivelant of a techinical foul in that two yellows equal a red and an ejection from the contest. It is always going to be a judgement call but isn't everything we do as an official a judgement call?
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 06:23pm
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Crappy Immature Unsporting Legal Roll your eyes, exhale, and move on.
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 06:29pm
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Unless........
there is something specifically covered in the rules, this would be a "talking to." And unless it was done as a direct intimidation tactic, let it go. Let these kids have some fun.
Peace
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 06:33pm
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It is specifically NOT IN THE RULES.
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 06:45pm
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 07:19pm
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 08:26pm
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by w_sohl
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"The referee shall be empowered to make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules." You wanna yank out 2-3-1 for a kid yelling at a layup? Have fun dining on that Can-O-Worms...
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 08:39pm
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Nooooooooooo,
"Therefore this would be an area not specifically coverd in ther rule book that the referee is allowed to rule on..."
Not correct at all. As we know laws are also impacted by tradition (as laws of the land are). There is no reccomendation nor comment about yelling in the "FED" or NCAA book. This DOES NOT mean that it is to be handled by an official using: "The referee shall be empowered to make decisions on any points not specifically covered in the rules." As many have said it is not against the rules to yell. To call it is OOO, in my opinion. And let's NOT get into trying to call it a safety issue, OK!
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Wed Feb 12, 2003, 09:04pm
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Hmmmm! Could call it taunting?
Then again...... 
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