POE - Correct mechanics

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

"Blue, 42".

Is it "Blue, 42", or "Blue, 4-2"?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is it "Blue, 42", or "Blue, 4-2"?

You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?

Easy answer: The player's number is 42, but for the past twenty-seven years, here in my little corner of the Constitution State, we've been taught to state "4-2". Do you want to fight about it? I'd rather fight than switch. Meet me outside.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Do you want to fight about it?

Not me. Fight Bktballref. He's the one who pointed out this obvious, yet overlooked, fact to me. The player's number is 42. Report the player's number.

You probably don't want to fight Bktballref, though. I heard he tackled South Carolina's quarterback in Saturday's game.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Fight Bktballref. He's the one who pointed out this obvious, yet overlooked, fact to me. The player's number is 42. Report the player's number.

Bring him on. I'll fight anyone who comes into my little corner of the state and trys to report to the table by saying "forty-two". We don't take too kindly to folks saying ten-dollar words like "forty-two" in our basketball games.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Not me. Fight Bktballref. He's the one who pointed out this obvious, yet overlooked, fact to me. The player's number is 42. Report the player's number.

You probably don't want to fight Bktballref, though. I heard he tackled South Carolina's quarterback in Saturday's game.

Barely, he didn't really wrap him up at all.

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?

Except when reporting "50", people often mistake that for "15", and vice versa. People end up saying the digits individually after that, anyways.

If someone tells me that the worst part of my game is that I said "four two" instead of "forty-two", I will be pleased.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?

You're correct. That's the wording in the manual. We're a bunch of rebels here in Connecticut, that's why we do it differently.

Where in the manual does it state that officials are not supposed to use two syllables for jersey colors, yet we've been told that dozens of times by the three interpreters that I've served under. It's "Gold", not "Yellow". It's "Blue", not "Purple". It's "Red", not "Orange", etc.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

You're correct. That's the wording in the manual. We're a bunch of rebels here in Connecticut, that's why we do it differently.

In HS around here, most scorekeepers like to hear the number at the same time as seeing the hand signal, since we report one numeral at a time. That's why we report 1-3 while showing the 1, then the 3. How do you report "thirteen"? Do you say "thir" when showing the 1, then "teen" when showing the 3? Since it's an issue of communication with the table, we just try to do what works best for them.

In NCAA-W, since we do two-handed reporting, it makes more sense to verbalize the actual number since we are showing both digits at the same time.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Where in the manual does it state that officials are not supposed to use two syllables for jersey colors, yet we've been told that dozens of times by the three interpreters that I've served under. It's "Gold", not "Yellow". It's "Blue", not "Purple". It's "Red", not "Orange", etc.

I've always been told the same thing, with the reason being it is easier to communicate in one-syllable words. However, I was told at a camp this season that we should report the actual color, not the one-syllable version, because the actual color is part of the players' and teams' identity. One team around here is called the Purple Raiders, so why should we call them "blue" if most of us are advanced enough beyond one-syllable words in our communication skills?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I've always been told the same thing, with the reason being it is easier to communicate in one-syllable words. However, I was told at a camp this season that we should report the actual color, not the one-syllable version, because the actual color is part of the players' and teams' identity. One team around here is called the Purple Raiders, so why should we call them "blue" if most of us are advanced enough beyond one-syllable words in our communication skills?

How far do we take that? Would / should we use "crimson", "chartreuse", "teal" or "ochre?"

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

How far do we take that? Would / should we use "crimson", "chartreuse", "teal" or "ochre?"

Some of us more "enlightened" people might.

Btw: Shut up.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

How far do we take that? Would / should we use "crimson", "chartreuse", "teal" or "ochre?"

I don't know what some of those colors look like. Ochre?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't know what some of those colors look like. Ochre?

Must be green. Ochre is a vegetable, but it's actually spelled okra. Some people like it. Many people don't.

"Slimy, ain't it." **


**Fred Sanford

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't know what some of those colors look like. Ochre?

Sigh...ok, here's my chance to help the unenlightened masses.

O-chre: n.
1. Any of several earthy mineral oxides of iron occurring in yellow, brown, or red and used as pigments.
2. A moderate orange yellow, from moderate or deep orange to moderate or strong yellow.

And, fwiw, I'm not gonna start using those particular color names unless I hear them in the school song:

"All hail to the Cream and the Ochre
If my lawnmower doesn't start I'll choke 'er"

Sheesh, I'm going back to my Ivory tower. (That's like a fancy white, for those that aren't sure... )

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

In HS around here, most scorekeepers like to hear the number at the same time as seeing the hand signal, since we report one numeral at a time.

That's quite an interesting statement. How was this preference determined? Survey? Negotiations with the local scorekeepers and timers union? It has a air of urban legend about it, as if it were the unquestioned wisdom of the fathers that has been passed down for so long that nobody questions it.

Just sayin