POE - Correct mechanics

[Zoochy]

You know.. I have seen many officials use a "On The Floor' signal." When watching the game I view this as "The Basket is Good" signal. Then get confused when the ball is taken out of bounds for a throw-in.
Why don't we all just use the "No Shot' signal?
I guess the "On The Floor' signal" is a good example of using a non-standard signal.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

You know.. I have seen many officials use a "On The Floor' signal." When watching the game I view this as "The Basket is Good" signal. Then get confused when the ball is taken out of bounds for a throw-in.
Why don't we all just use the "No Shot' signal?
I guess the "On The Floor' signal" is a good example of using a non-standard signal.

I was watching a game last Sunday: the official called a foul, immediately gave the "no basket" signal and after that he did the "on the floor" one, just when the ball was going through the basket. I was confused for some seconds, because it was just like "basket is good" You can imagine how fans might react in this case.

Some years ago I saw an official who thought that the "wave off" signal was to be used as "stop the clock": when calling a foul on the shooter he waved off and then signalled that the basket was good. Really.

Originally Posted by Zoochy

You know.. I have seen many officials use a "On The Floor' signal." When watching the game I view this as "The Basket is Good" signal. Then get confused when the ball is taken out of bounds for a throw-in.
Why don't we all just use the "No Shot' signal?
I guess the "On The Floor' signal" is a good example of using a non-standard signal.

Using that "signal" sends the wrong message. Habitual motion can begin while a player is still "on the floor" & the player should be awarded with FTs in that case.
I agree with you that wiping the attempt, "no shot" communicates a throw-in is next, unless there are 7+ fouls of course.

[Smitty]

It bugs me when I see guys say "hits" or "on the arm" when they report, but a lot of guys do it. I don't believe there is any requirement to say anything while reporting the mechanic for the nature of the foul at the table. I say nothing and just perform the mechanic.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Smitty

It bugs me when I see guys say "hits" or "on the arm" when they report, but a lot of guys do it. I don't believe there is any requirement to say anything while reporting the mechanic for the nature of the foul at the table. I say nothing and just perform the mechanic.

While there are certainly bigger things to be bugged about, I've quit verbalizing this when I report. I found it's easier this way, and doesn't draw the occasional "what was that?" from the chirpy coach.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Smitty

It bugs me when I see guys say "hits" or "on the arm" when they report, but a lot of guys do it. I don't believe there is any requirement to say anything while reporting the mechanic for the nature of the foul at the table. I say nothing and just perform the mechanic.

I say the foul as is (block, hold, push) for all but illegal use of hands. For that, I say "hands".

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I say the foul as is (block, hold, push) for all but illegal use of hands. For that, I say "hands".

While reporting? Or only at the spot?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

While reporting? Or only at the spot?

While reporting, always. At spot, sometimes.

Like JRut, just mentioned, I also add more description on occassion...such as "from behind" to more completley communcate what happened when it may not be obvious.

[zeedonk]

Originally Posted by Smitty

I don't believe there is any requirement to say anything while reporting the mechanic for the nature of the foul at the table. I say nothing and just perform the mechanic.

This has been emphasized to us in our classes- under the umbrella of "preventive officiating" especially younger officials- while reporting the foul announce color, number and use the appropriate mechanic. You don't have to say anything. In fact, the higher the level of game, there's less of chance the table will hear you anyway, and it prevents a coach from *****ing about a hand check foul reported as illegal use of hands....


And for us here in NJ, saying "on the floor" is a big no-no, and will keep you in the middle school games forever.... our spot of foul mechanic is to wave off the shot and "before". NEVER "on the floor". Of course, it wasn't a problem for me until I was told NEVER to say "on the floor" and my next game I said it twice... arrrrgh!

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by zeedonk

NEVER "on the floor". Of course, it wasn't a problem for me until I was told NEVER to say "on the floor" and my next game I said it twice... arrrrgh!

When I went to my first training sessions a few yrs back, I never realized I had the bad habit of reporting by saying "I've got" before reporting fouls. "I've got blue, 4-2, with a hold." I was told to slow down, and as is stated report - color, number, and give a signal. The less said the less room for error......good advice given to me by a senior official. Every now and then, early in the yr I do catch myself however....that's why I practice and get my scrimmages in.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

You know.. I have seen many officials use a "On The Floor' signal." When watching the game I view this as "The Basket is Good" signal. Then get confused when the ball is taken out of bounds for a throw-in.
Why don't we all just use the "No Shot' signal?
I guess the "On The Floor' signal" is a good example of using a non-standard signal.

I will admit that this one got me in trouble a few years ago (maybe 5 years) and I've never used it again. It was the final seconds of a tightly contested game in a small gym with a very excited, loud crowd on hand. The dribbler started a drive on the wing (me as trail on that side). The dribbler worked his way almost around the defender when he was steered by the defender with an extended arm. *Whistle!!* Two dribbles later he shot the ball "No shot, no shot, on the floor" *Waved the basket off and pointed to the floor* Got over to the bench to report *waved the basket off* ## *Signaled hand check and pointed to the spot the throw in was to happen* The crowd, coach, players went crazy. I have never pointed at the floor again. I refuse to lol It will only only lead to misunderstanding

-Josh