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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 11:08am
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It was addressed in our association meeting and the emphasized the proper use of approved NFHS signals.

My question is, are there areas in which you differ from the NAMES of the signals.

For instance, when you report, do you say "illegal use of the hands" or do you just say "hit" or "on the arm" as I see most officials doing? Do you say "blocking" or do you say "body."
NFHS mechanics do not require you to verbalize the nature of the foul at the table. Just give the signal. "Blue, 42. [signal blocking] Two shots."

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 11:16am
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NFHS mechanics do not require you to verbalize the nature of the foul at the table. Just give the signal. "Blue, 42. [signal blocking] Two shots."

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 01:30pm
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NFHS mechanics do not require you to verbalize the nature of the foul at the table. Just give the signal. "Blue, 42. [signal blocking] Two shots."

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I used to do that but I have changed course.

Now every time have a foul I report or say the action that was a foul. For example I say, "4-2, push from behind" along with the appropriate signal. I was suggested to do this at a camp about 2 years ago and ever since I can hardly think of a single time where someone questioned the call after I reported it. I will even get more specific as to which arm the player hit or fouled or the action that created the foul.

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 08:35pm
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NFHS mechanics do not require you to verbalize the nature of the foul at the table. Just give the signal. "Blue, 42. [signal blocking] Two shots."
Same thing for IAABO mechanics, as bad as they are.
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Old Thu Oct 23, 2008, 02:03pm
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I just say, "Foul's on Blue, 42 (give signal), here (the here is with the visual signal)." Then I either point the direction the ball is given two or say two shots or whatever the situation is.
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Old Thu Oct 23, 2008, 05:45pm
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I just say, "Foul's on Blue, 42 (give signal), here (the here is with the visual signal)." Then I either point the direction the ball is given two or say two shots or whatever the situation is.
Drop the "fouls on"

here? forget that too

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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 08:37pm
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"Blue, 42".
Is it "Blue, 42", or "Blue, 4-2"?
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 09:09pm
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Is it "Blue, 42", or "Blue, 4-2"?
You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 09:18pm
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You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?
Easy answer: The player's number is 42, but for the past twenty-seven years, here in my little corner of the Constitution State, we've been taught to state "4-2". Do you want to fight about it? I'd rather fight than switch. Meet me outside.
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 09:29pm
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Do you want to fight about it?
Not me. Fight Bktballref. He's the one who pointed out this obvious, yet overlooked, fact to me. The player's number is 42. Report the player's number.

You probably don't want to fight Bktballref, though. I heard he tackled South Carolina's quarterback in Saturday's game.
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Old Tue Oct 21, 2008, 09:39pm
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Fight Bktballref. He's the one who pointed out this obvious, yet overlooked, fact to me. The player's number is 42. Report the player's number.
Bring him on. I'll fight anyone who comes into my little corner of the state and trys to report to the table by saying "forty-two". We don't take too kindly to folks saying ten-dollar words like "forty-two" in our basketball games.
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Not me. Fight Bktballref. He's the one who pointed out this obvious, yet overlooked, fact to me. The player's number is 42. Report the player's number.

You probably don't want to fight Bktballref, though. I heard he tackled South Carolina's quarterback in Saturday's game.
Barely, he didn't really wrap him up at all.
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You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?
Except when reporting "50", people often mistake that for "15", and vice versa. People end up saying the digits individually after that, anyways.

If someone tells me that the worst part of my game is that I said "four two" instead of "forty-two", I will be pleased.
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Old Wed Oct 22, 2008, 08:42pm
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Purple 22 Foul, Yellow 23 Shoots Two ???

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You're supposed to report the player's number to the table. Is the player's number "42" or is the player's number "4-2"?
You're correct. That's the wording in the manual. We're a bunch of rebels here in Connecticut, that's why we do it differently.

Where in the manual does it state that officials are not supposed to use two syllables for jersey colors, yet we've been told that dozens of times by the three interpreters that I've served under. It's "Gold", not "Yellow". It's "Blue", not "Purple". It's "Red", not "Orange", etc.
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You're correct. That's the wording in the manual. We're a bunch of rebels here in Connecticut, that's why we do it differently.
In HS around here, most scorekeepers like to hear the number at the same time as seeing the hand signal, since we report one numeral at a time. That's why we report 1-3 while showing the 1, then the 3. How do you report "thirteen"? Do you say "thir" when showing the 1, then "teen" when showing the 3? Since it's an issue of communication with the table, we just try to do what works best for them.

In NCAA-W, since we do two-handed reporting, it makes more sense to verbalize the actual number since we are showing both digits at the same time.

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Where in the manual does it state that officials are not supposed to use two syllables for jersey colors, yet we've been told that dozens of times by the three interpreters that I've served under. It's "Gold", not "Yellow". It's "Blue", not "Purple". It's "Red", not "Orange", etc.
I've always been told the same thing, with the reason being it is easier to communicate in one-syllable words. However, I was told at a camp this season that we should report the actual color, not the one-syllable version, because the actual color is part of the players' and teams' identity. One team around here is called the Purple Raiders, so why should we call them "blue" if most of us are advanced enough beyond one-syllable words in our communication skills?
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