Playing Officials

[doubleringer]

I think most of us have been in the same boat in some fashion. Either we're watching a game and everyone wants to know what we thought of a call, we're playing in a game or possibly coaching. In all three cases my standard answer is "they're on the floor calling the game, I'm not. They must have see it differently." I can understand being frustrated with officials in a wreck league. I used to play in one and I too would get frustrated with the quality of the officiating. My problem wasn't so much with their judgement, it was the fact that they didn't run. It was annoying, but I always reminded myself that I didn't want to work those games, so I shouldn't complain.

[Coltdoggs]

I've long sinced stopped playing in Men's leagues...and I don't officiate the Men's WRECK league either. I don't know if I could play now because I'd be too wrapped up in wanting to call the game!

I'm coaching my daughter's team (9U) this year...While not my first stint as a youth coach, should be interesting this year because this is the first time I've coached while having been a ref.

We play at the facility I ref at so I will know most of the guys officiating my games and I'm more focused on my kids than I am the calls...but I've been teasing the guys to go easy on me!

[slow whistle]

About 10 yrs ago I was playing in a league and one of the officials answered his cell phone DURING the game, DURING a live ball...and no his wife wasn't pregnant, nor was anybody dying, he just thought that since it was a blowout he didn't really need to pay attention...and yes I read him the riot act...

[archangel]

Originally Posted by slow whistle

About 10 yrs ago I was playing in a league and one of the officials answered his cell phone DURING the game, DURING a live ball...and no his wife wasn't pregnant, nor was anybody dying, he just thought that since it was a blowout he didn't really need to pay attention...and yes I read him the riot act...

Ifs that the case, that cell phone was the size of a loaf of bread!

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by archangel

Ifs that the case, that cell phone was the size of a loaf of bread!

ok mr. smarty pants I did the exact math and it was 8 yrs ago which IS "about 10 yrs ago"...however, I will note that I had the original motorola flip phone back around 1994-95 and you could fit that in your pocket...and they have obviously gotten progressively smaller since then......

[slow whistle]

don't know how the thumbs down got on that post, must have accidentally clicked... it's all in fun...

[Adam]

Originally Posted by archangel

Ifs that the case, that cell phone was the size of a loaf of bread!

I had that cell phone. I think my plan had about 30 minutes a month on it.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by doubleringer

My problem wasn't so much with their judgement, it was the fact that they didn't run. It was annoying, but I always reminded myself that I didn't want to work those games, so I shouldn't complain.

This particular "irritant" has always bugged me. If the officials are making the calls, controlling the game, and getting the job done, but aren't seen as hustling...well, what's the beef? Half the men in most wreck leagues aren't running either. In fact, my biggest irritant in men's wreck is that just when you get a good angle at T or C, some leisurely weeknight warrior steps into your frame and just stops and loafs there. It's not moving to improve; it becomes moving to see around the spectators dressed as players.

Now if they're not hustling, and they're missing stuff...well, okay. That's a legitimate gripe.

[Coach Bill]

Saddle - It really bothers me not to see the ref hustling. But, according to you, I have no legitimate gripe. Because, every time I ask the ref to hustle from the backcourt to the frontcourt, he tells me he's not missing anything, he had a good view from back there, etc.... I've never heard a ref say, yeh, I missed that because I didn't hustle into position.

I think I it's a legitimate request (gripe) to ask the ref to be professional.

[Smitty]

I agree with Coach Bill. There's no excuse for not hustling. If you sign up to work a game, work the game to the best of your ability. If you can't hustle up the court for the whole game, you shouldn't be working the game. There's no way you can do a good job reffing a basketball game if you aren't hustling. So do yourself and the game a favor and get into shape before you start working any games.

[Back In The Saddle]

Good heavens, reading is so fundamental: "Now if they're not hustling, and they're missing stuff...well, okay. That's a legitimate gripe."

Read the entire damn post before you start venting your spleen, will you?

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Good heavens, reading is so fundamental: "Now if they're not hustling, and they're missing stuff...well, okay. That's a legitimate gripe."

Read the entire damn post before you start venting your spleen, will you?

I was responding to this part that you wrote:

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

If the officials are making the calls, controlling the game, and getting the job done, but aren't seen as hustling...well, what's the beef??

Not hustling at any time is not ok. By definition, if you're not hustling, you're missing stuff. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

[Coach Bill]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

Good heavens, reading is so fundamental: "Now if they're not hustling, and they're missing stuff...well, okay. That's a legitimate gripe."

Read the entire damn post before you start venting your spleen, will you?

I read the entire d@mn post. Did you read mine? I may think they're missing stuff, but they always claim they're not missing stuff. Have you ever said to a coach, "Yeh, I wasn't hustling, so I missed that one." I think they should hustle all the time, to be sure they don't miss anything.

[Back In The Saddle]

We're talking about men's wreck ball here. They almost never have coaches. And when they do, the coaches are complete idiots. So when talking to men's wreck ball coaches, I keep my dialog very simple, very short. I only use phrases like, "there's the door." Come to think of it, that's the ONLY phrase I use with them.

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

Saddle - It really bothers me not to see the ref hustling. But, according to you, I have no legitimate gripe. Because, every time I ask the ref to hustle from the backcourt to the frontcourt, he tells me he's not missing anything, he had a good view from back there, etc.... I've never heard a ref say, yeh, I missed that because I didn't hustle into position.

I think I it's a legitimate request (gripe) to ask the ref to be professional.

Totally disrespectful, If you ever said that to me.....WHACK