what is the official ruling

[M&M Guy]

Ok, ok, let me interrupt this catfight...

First, apologize to Harry for me for misspelling his name. I knew it was Bohn - but that's what I get for typing quickly at work.

Jeff, I was not aware we are no longer using NF mechanics. I was under the impression the reason we were no longer receiving the mechanics manuals was as a cost saving move to avoid postage costs, not because we were going away from the basics. Sure, there may be a few small items that are different, such as I know for sure Harry wants us to ALWAYS hand the ball to a thower on the baseline, even if we're in the backcourt. But those are minor items, not major differences in philosophy.

But, most importantly, those are mechanics. We were talking rules and POE's. As far as I know, they still want us to follow NF rules because they were still sending out rulebooks, right? I've also heard Harry speak the last couple of years at our association meetings right before regionals started, and he has specifically stated his, and the IHSA's goals, are to have consistency in the entire state, from Chicago down to Cairo. I'm not arguing the merits of whether two hands on a dribbler should automatically be a foul. All I'm saying it is written as such in the rulebook the IHSA wants us to use, and if there is a difference in philosophy with the IHSA, then they need to do a better job of letting the rest of us know about that difference.

So, to answer your question:

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Are you suggesting that a foul should be called no matter what? The player is not moved, impeded, stopped in any way but a defender just touches a ball handler with two hands, we should have a foul?

If I see it, yep, because that's what the rule and POE says.

Now, we can have another discussion as to whether I would actually see that second hand touch in that particular instance...