Coach out of Box?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by oldschool

How would you deal with this. Team A gets rebound in backcourt and is triple teamed against baseline. Is a sectional champioship game in double overtime. Coach of A comes all the way down sideline to get a time out. Is actually in the other teams coaching box. Understanding she was just trying to get a timeout but is this an acceptable practice? What would you do? 3 whistle crew so I know someone should have been watching for the timeout. Thanks

oldschool:


Here is how I would have handled the situation:

WHACK!! Coach do you still want a timeout?

MTD, Sr.

[Tio]

Ben Howland in the 2nd half of the recent UCLA/Stanford game came onto the court to call a timeout at the end of the game. He did not get T'd.

[rockyroad]

By rule, it's an easy T. I really don't care that all they wanted was a time-out, there is NO reason for the coach to be that far down the court...

Having said that, if there were 10 evaluators/observers at this game, 5 would probably tell you to call the T immediately and the other 5 would say it was "good game management" to not call the T...but imo, if we follow the rules, there really isn't much that the assignor or evaluators can ding us for. I can justify to everyone involved why I DID call the T based on the rules...I can't use any rules basis to justify why I did NOT call the T.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I can justify to everyone involved why I DID call the T based on the rules...I can't use any rules basis to justify why I did NOT call the T.

You are wise beyond your height.

[Tio]

In my opinion, a T in this situation does not fit the game. I've heard Dick Cartmell speak several times at camps and he always refers to technical fouls as: "Our last resort to manage a situation."

So my suggestion is to do the right thing for the game and not put a decision in the game that will get you in the paper for the wrong reasons.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Tio

In my opinion, a T in this situation does not fit the game. I've heard Dick Cartmell speak several times at camps and he always refers to technical fouls as: "Our last resort to manage a situation."

So my suggestion is to do the right thing for the game and not put a decision in the game that will get you in the paper for the wrong reasons.

So what would the right thing be if...

1) the opposing coach had received a 'T' for bench decorum infractions earlier in the game?
or
2) if the coach calling the TO had been seat-belted b/c of a bench technical in the 2nd quarter?

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Tio

In my opinion, a T in this situation does not fit the game. I've heard Dick Cartmell speak several times at camps and he always refers to technical fouls as: "Our last resort to manage a situation."

So my suggestion is to do the right thing for the game and not put a decision in the game that will get you in the paper for the wrong reasons.

So if I don't call the T and the team whose coach was at the other end of the floor ends up winning, and the losing coach goes to the press to say "Hey. Check this out. We got cheated." - well then we just got in the papers for the wrong reason.

Like I said, I CAN justify calling the T if I need to...I CAN"T justify ignoring it if I need to...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Tio

In my opinion, a T in this situation does not fit the game. I've heard Dick Cartmell speak several times at camps and he always refers to technical fouls as: "Our last resort to manage a situation."

So my suggestion is to do the right thing for the game and not put a decision in the game that will get you in the paper for the wrong reasons.

Dick Carmell would call a "T" in this situation. It's that obvious...and especially with the POE that the NCAA issued this year on coaches being out of their boxes. Unfortunately, other officials don't have his testicular fortitude. That's my opinion.

If you're trying to use the rationale that you shouldn't make any call because it might get you in the paper, you're in the wrong bidness. You call something...anything...strictly on merit. Period.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Having said that, if there were 10 evaluators/observers at this game, 5 would probably tell you to call the T immediately and the other 5 would say it was "good game management" to not call the T...but imo, if we follow the rules, there really isn't much that the assignor or evaluators can ding us for. I can justify to everyone involved why I DID call the T based on the rules...I can't use any rules basis to justify why I did NOT call the T.

Frankly, this is all I needed to change my opinion. I can't argue with this.