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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 09:48am
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Coach out of Box?

How would you deal with this. Team A gets rebound in backcourt and is triple teamed against baseline. Is a sectional champioship game in double overtime. Coach of A comes all the way down sideline to get a time out. Is actually in the other teams coaching box. Understanding she was just trying to get a timeout but is this an acceptable practice? What would you do? 3 whistle crew so I know someone should have been watching for the timeout. Thanks
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 09:50am
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Gets a TO from me.
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 09:53am
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1) Grant the time out,
2) Warn her to stay in the box,
3) Try to listen/watch better.
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 10:03am
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First of all, she gets no TO from me while she is out of the coach's box.

Secondly, if she is way down in the other coach's box then I'm busting out my video recorder.

Seriously though, if she's past half-court then it's gonna be very hard not to call a 'T'.
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 10:12am
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Even in the heat of the moment, during a double OT game, where she is obviously trying to get someone's attention unsuccessfully?
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 10:14am
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First of all, she gets no TO from me while she is out of the coach's box.

Secondly, if she is way down in the other coach's box then I'm busting out my video recorder.

Seriously though, if she's past half-court then it's gonna be very hard not to call a 'T'.
Same here, coach has to stay in the box to communicate with me. It sounds as if coach walked past the scorers table to make the request. Hard to say what one would do unless they're in that situation, but maybe I'd hit the whistle, warn coach & put her back in the box, then grant the TO since we have a dead ball.
FTR, when the trap is on officials should be anticipating a TO request & occasionally glancing in coaches direction (especially on a 3 person crew).
I don't know if the L & T were tableside or opposite but the new L has got to be aware. Probably not much to referee in the FC when trap is on in the BC, JMO.

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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 10:16am
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Even in the heat of the moment, during a double OT game, where she is obviously trying to get someone's attention unsuccessfully?
So what happens in the 1st round of the state tournament when the other coach does the same thing in the 3rd quarter with a 10 point lead?
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 10:27am
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How would you deal with this. Team A gets rebound in backcourt and is triple teamed against baseline. Is a sectional champioship game in double overtime. Coach of A comes all the way down sideline to get a time out. Is actually in the other teams coaching box. Understanding she was just trying to get a timeout but is this an acceptable practice? What would you do? 3 whistle crew so I know someone should have been watching for the timeout. Thanks
I think the official who was consumed by the play should call a technical foul on his two partners for not being aware in a situation where a time-out should be expected.
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So what happens in the 1st round of the state tournament when the other coach does the same thing in the 3rd quarter with a 10 point lead?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's right.

But I too coach and can see it happen. If I am yelling and signalling to get a TO and the ref can't hear me or doesn't see me and the game is on the line, I might try to get their attention by moving closer and yelling louder, etc. And, in the heat of the moment, I/they could "stray....."
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's right.

But I too coach and can see it happen. If I am yelling and signalling to get a TO and the ref can't hear me or doesn't see me and the game is on the line, I might try to get their attention by moving closer and yelling louder, etc. And, in the heat of the moment, I/they could "stray....."
Are you saying we should "think outside the box"?

Ewwww - sorry for that one.
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Are you saying we should "think outside the box"?

Ewwww - sorry for that one.
C'mon, your not sorry for that one! That's just YOU!
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Classic example of everyone ball watching:

1. Warn for being out of box
2. Grant TO
3. Pretend to listen to the coach complain about nobody granting her TO request.
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Classic example of everyone ball watching:

1. Warn for being out of box
2. Grant TO
Count me in this camp, but I'll add one.

3. Pretend to listen to the coach complain about nobody granting her TO request.
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 11:52am
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3. Pretend to listen to the coach complain about nobody granting her TO request.
How is that? look below
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Old Wed Mar 12, 2008, 11:57am
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How is that? look below
Nope.
Do what my late grandfather did when he couldn't hear you.

Smile and nod.
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