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oldschool Wed Mar 12, 2008 09:48am

Coach out of Box?
 
How would you deal with this. Team A gets rebound in backcourt and is triple teamed against baseline. Is a sectional champioship game in double overtime. Coach of A comes all the way down sideline to get a time out. Is actually in the other teams coaching box. Understanding she was just trying to get a timeout but is this an acceptable practice? What would you do? 3 whistle crew so I know someone should have been watching for the timeout. Thanks

stripes Wed Mar 12, 2008 09:50am

Gets a TO from me.

grunewar Wed Mar 12, 2008 09:53am

1) Grant the time out,
2) Warn her to stay in the box,
3) Try to listen/watch better.

Raymond Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:03am

First of all, she gets no TO from me while she is out of the coach's box.

Secondly, if she is way down in the other coach's box then I'm busting out my video recorder. :D

Seriously though, if she's past half-court then it's gonna be very hard not to call a 'T'.

grunewar Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:12am

Even in the heat of the moment, during a double OT game, where she is obviously trying to get someone's attention unsuccessfully?

Ch1town Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
First of all, she gets no TO from me while she is out of the coach's box.

Secondly, if she is way down in the other coach's box then I'm busting out my video recorder. :D

Seriously though, if she's past half-court then it's gonna be very hard not to call a 'T'.

Same here, coach has to stay in the box to communicate with me. It sounds as if coach walked past the scorers table to make the request. Hard to say what one would do unless they're in that situation, but maybe I'd hit the whistle, warn coach & put her back in the box, then grant the TO since we have a dead ball.
FTR, when the trap is on officials should be anticipating a TO request & occasionally glancing in coaches direction (especially on a 3 person crew).
I don't know if the L & T were tableside or opposite but the new L has got to be aware. Probably not much to referee in the FC when trap is on in the BC, JMO.

Raymond Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:16am

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Originally Posted by grunewar
Even in the heat of the moment, during a double OT game, where she is obviously trying to get someone's attention unsuccessfully?

So what happens in the 1st round of the state tournament when the other coach does the same thing in the 3rd quarter with a 10 point lead?

zebraman Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:27am

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Originally Posted by oldschool
How would you deal with this. Team A gets rebound in backcourt and is triple teamed against baseline. Is a sectional champioship game in double overtime. Coach of A comes all the way down sideline to get a time out. Is actually in the other teams coaching box. Understanding she was just trying to get a timeout but is this an acceptable practice? What would you do? 3 whistle crew so I know someone should have been watching for the timeout. Thanks

I think the official who was consumed by the play should call a technical foul on his two partners for not being aware in a situation where a time-out should be expected. :rolleyes:

grunewar Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef
So what happens in the 1st round of the state tournament when the other coach does the same thing in the 3rd quarter with a 10 point lead?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's right.

But I too coach and can see it happen. If I am yelling and signalling to get a TO and the ref can't hear me or doesn't see me and the game is on the line, I might try to get their attention by moving closer and yelling louder, etc. And, in the heat of the moment, I/they could "stray....."

Mark Padgett Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:15am

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's right.

But I too coach and can see it happen. If I am yelling and signalling to get a TO and the ref can't hear me or doesn't see me and the game is on the line, I might try to get their attention by moving closer and yelling louder, etc. And, in the heat of the moment, I/they could "stray....."

Are you saying we should "think outside the box"?

Ewwww - sorry for that one. :o

grunewar Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:46am

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett
Are you saying we should "think outside the box"?

Ewwww - sorry for that one. :o

C'mon, your not sorry for that one! That's just YOU! ;)

truerookie Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:47am

Classic example of everyone ball watching:

1. Warn for being out of box
2. Grant TO
3. Pretend to listen to the coach complain about nobody granting her TO request.<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Adam Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by truerookie
Classic example of everyone ball watching:

1. Warn for being out of box
2. Grant TO

Count me in this camp, but I'll add one.

3. Pretend to listen to the coach complain about nobody granting her TO request.

truerookie Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:52am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells
Count me in this camp, but I'll add one.

3. Pretend to listen to the coach complain about nobody granting her TO request.

How is that? look below:)

Adam Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:57am

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Originally Posted by truerookie
How is that? look below:)

Nope. :)
Do what my late grandfather did when he couldn't hear you.

Smile and nod.


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