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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 09:25am
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Grant time-out or not

A1 is fouled as time expires in the fourth quarter, score 60-61, B leading. Before A1 goes to the line, Coach B ask for a time-out, do you grant him that time-out?
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 09:29am
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 09:56am
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A1 is fouled as time expires in the fourth quarter, score 60-61, B leading. Before A1 goes to the line, Coach B ask for a time-out, do you grant him that time-out?
Unless there was already a timeout granted after the expiration of playing time, yes.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 10:00am
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:01am
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Yes, it is Altus Oklahoma. Can anyone give me a reference point for the situation about the time-out?
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:17am
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Yes, it is Altus Oklahoma. Can anyone give me a reference point for the situation about the time-out?
Don't have a NFHS rule book available at the moment, but T/O's are allowed in this situation. The game is not over. Do you have a rule book available to you?

My question to you is why would you think a T/O is not allowed in the situation?
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:18am
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Yes, it is Altus Oklahoma. Can anyone give me a reference point for the situation about the time-out?
5-8
Time-out occurs and the clock, if running, shall be stopped when an official:...

3. . . . Grants a player's/head coach's oral or visual request for a time-out, such request being granted only when:

a. The ball is in control or at the disposal of a player of his/her team.
b. The ball is dead, unless replacement of a disqualified, or injured player(s), or a player directed to leave the game is pending, and a substitute(s) is available and required.

5-12-3 . . . Successive time-outs shall not be granted after expiration of playing time for the fourth quarter or any extra period.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:34am
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I watched a game in which this happened, but the officials did not give the coach a time-out, which I felt was a wrong call. This happened in an area finals game.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:39am
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I watched a game in which this happened, but the officials did not give the coach a time-out, which I felt was a wrong call. This happened in an area finals game.
Maybe the ball was at the disposal of the FT shooter. There are other reasons the request might not have been granted. Maybe the officials did not hear the coach. This is why I never understand why coaches throw out common sense with this rule. Have a player request a timeout. They can be on the court and in the official's field of vision.

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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 11:57am
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Have a player request a timeout. They can be on the court and in the official's field of vision.
Rut's point is well taken. Last week, I had a coach yelling for a TO in a really noisy gym and he was not in the field of vision of either of us. Finally, I saw him out of the corner of my eye and called the TO. After the game, he said he had been yelling for five seconds. I told him the problem was that we are trained to ignore any yelling coming from the benches. It took a minute, but then he smiled and said, "OK, I get it".
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 12:15pm
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I wish coaches would teach their players to request timeout when they hear the coach yelling "time out." Because any complaints about why their players can't probably apply to why the refs have trouble hearing and granting the request - i.e., noisy, don't want them to turn around, etc.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 02:05pm
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 06:25pm
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Yet again another (yes Mark, another) area where FIBA rules are better - time out requests come through the bench. Players & coaches don't get to make them directly to the ref.
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Old Mon Mar 03, 2008, 06:27pm
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Yet again another (yes Mark, another) area where FIBA rules are better - time out requests come through the bench. Players & coaches don't get to make them directly to the ref.
I disagree. I like that players can stop play with a TO; just not coaches.
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Having officiated games using Fed, NCAA, and FIBA rules, I vote for FIBA - all the way.
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