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Old Sat Feb 16, 2008, 08:45pm
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First you spelled the word wrong... it is Mormon,
Second to set the record straight the church banned polygamy in 1896
The title of my post referred to the famous Broadway singer, Ethel Morman.



Aren't there still some Mormons that practice polygomy, however with multiple wives and one husband, rather than one wife and multiple husbands, as I was referring to in the post?

I believe that there's a Utahref on the NFHS forum? Maybe he, or one of his wives, can settle this debate?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2008, 09:21pm
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As previously mentioned the church banned polygamy in 1896.

There are splinter/fundamentalist groups that practice but it is illegal.

The Utah Constitution bans polygamy as well. It is a crimnal offense although not heavily prosecuted unless sex abuse of a minor involved..
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2008, 09:26pm
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As previously mentioned the church banned polygamy in 1896. The Utah Constitution bans polygamy as well. It is a crimnal offense although not heavily prosecuted unless sex abuse of a minor involved.
And it's illegal to travel faster than 65 mph in the State of Connecticut.
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2008, 10:40pm
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The title of my post referred to the famous Broadway singer, Ethel Morman.
Well, then you still spelled it wrong. Her name is Merman.

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Aren't there still some Mormons that practice polygomy, however with multiple wives and one husband, rather than one wife and multiple husbands, as I was referring to in the post?
One wife and several husbands is called polyandry. One husband and several wives is popularly referred to as polygamy, although it should be called polygyny. Polygamy is the "generic" for either of the two.

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I believe that there's a Utahref on the NFHS forum? Maybe he, or one of his wives, can settle this debate?
Why doesn't KElvin's assertion settle it?
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2008, 11:08pm
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Well, then you still spelled it wrong. Her name is Merman.

One wife and several husbands is called polyandry. One husband and several wives is popularly referred to as polygamy, although it should be called polygyny. Polygamy is the "generic" for either of the two.

Why doesn't KElvin's assertion settle it?
Polygamy is having one spouse too many.

Monogamy is the same thing.
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Old Sat Feb 16, 2008, 11:25pm
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Polygamy is having one spouse too many.

Monogamy is the same thing.
Are you channeling JR lately?
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2008, 03:07pm
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Well, then you still spelled it wrong. Her name is Merman. Why doesn't Kelvin's assertion settle it?
Sorry again about the confusion. The title of my earlier thread was really referring to Alvin Morman, who pitched for the Kansas City Royals back in the late 1990's.



I didn't realize that Kelvin green was from Utah. It wasn't listed on his Forum profile. I would still like to hear from one of his wives, and then, I'll form my final opinion.
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2008, 05:30pm
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I didn't realize that Kelvin green was from Utah. It wasn't listed on his Forum profile. I would still like to hear from one of his wives, and then, I'll form my final opinion.
I'm going to assume that you're just yanking Kelvin's chain with your "one of his wives" jest and let him answer that one

I find it both amusing and baffling that the Mormons and polygamy myth persists. I'm a Utahn. I frequently joke about it. I love the Oscar Wilde quote that Bob posted above. I often quote my great grandfather who said: "If you've got one wife, she has nobody to argue with but you. If you have two wives, they can argue with each other and you can get some work done." Then there was the colorful old Englishman who told me he could never get into polygamy. But he was all over the serial monogamy thing!

So in the spirit of myth-busting, here are a few basic facts:

* The Mormon church did once practice polygamy.
* In 1890 the church officially renounced, and banned, the practice among its members.
* This angered some members, who left the church and formed their own churches. Many of those refer to themselves as "fundamentalist mormons."
* The Mormon church has no official or unofficial affiliation with these groups.
* Mormons who do begin practicing polygamy are summarily excommunicated. Polygamists wishing to join the Mormon church, even in countries where it is legal and common, must end the practice before joining.
* Outside of the Mormon church, polygamy is alive and well. They live in normal neighborhoods, in compounds, sometimes even whole cities.
* It seems the authorities in Utah and other states have little interest in prosecuting polygamy generally.
* But there have been some rather high profile prosecutions in the past few years. Tom Green, a polygamist who made the rounds on the daytime talk shows a few years back, brought some very unwanted legal attention on himself. Warren Jeffs' troubles and the Lost Boys situation have gotten national attention.

My sister-in-law is from a polygamist family. When she married my Mormon brother-in-law, it caused a rift in her family. A lot of them still don't speak to her. I had a friend in my local officials association who came from a polygamist family. He had some interesting stories to tell on a couple of long drives to distant schools.

I guess as far as myths go, the polygamy thing isn't too bad. It's at least plausible. Unlike the whole business about Mormons having horns. Or the transatlantic tunnel that supposedly ran from Liverpool, England to "the great walled city of Salt Lake."

It's too bad about the tunnel. Otherwise I'd be able to drive the family on a European vacation
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2008, 06:43pm
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the transatlantic tunnel that supposedly ran from Liverpool, England to "the great walled city of Salt Lake."
I never heard about this tunnel. How much is the round trip toll. My daughter received a Melinda and Bill Gates Grant to study HIV/AIDS at St. George's Medical School in London, UK. I don't like, and I can't afford, flying long distances, and I would love to see her before she comes home in August.

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Old Sun Feb 17, 2008, 11:23pm
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* Mormons who do begin practicing polygamy are summarily excommunicated. Polygamists wishing to join the Mormon church, even in countries where it is legal and common, must end the practice before joining.
Polygamy is a problem among Quaker churches in Kenya. I don't know about other denominations. But I do know that Quaker organizations there struggle to come up with a teaching that is acceptable to the consensus. After all, there were some very prominent polygamists in the Bible!

Wow, has this thread strayed off topic, or what?!?
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I once had the offer to move to a Quaker settlement in Az. She was almost worth it but I passed.
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The title of my post referred to the famous Broadway singer, Ethel Morman.



Aren't there still some Mormons that practice polygomy, however with multiple wives and one husband, rather than one wife and multiple husbands, as I was referring to in the post?

I believe that there's a Utahref on the NFHS forum? Maybe he, or one of his wives, can settle this debate?
You are getting yourself in the same kind of trouble as the OP.
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Old Sun Feb 17, 2008, 08:04pm
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Here's a recent case that occurred around here.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=4151108
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