Coaches....What can you say?
 

I did 2 girls games this morning. The coach for the 8th grade team, her husband is a varsity coach for a girls team. I did their game Thursday night. This is the first time I have had one of here games since she left high school coaching 2 years ago. We have always gotten along.

Today, I go to her before the game a to break the ice and say " Coach if you are going to complain about my officiating, I am going to complain about your coaching" She jumps on me for calls that I made at her husband's game Thursday night. I called a push on his player in front of his bench. A good call. He complained loudly and several fans did as well. She tells me I called a terrible game and sited several plays, and she says " just as the fans behind the bench, they will tell you" I explained that the fans had no idea of the rules or how to enforce them. She was just angry. BTW, his team won by 42 points and used their subs a lot during the game. It was never close.

I could not believe she would behave like this. She lost this game by 20.

I don't really have a question, but I was thinking why would she want to make me angry at her? They won the game by 42, I had no influence on the game. Why not butter me up for this game? I don't get it. I always wanted the officials on my side before the game.

Are you serious, Turtle? Do you really expect coaches to butter you up before a game?

<b>NEVER</b> go and schmooze coaches before a game. Or during a game. Or after a game. Sucking around can <b>never</b> lead to anything that will end up being even remotely advantageous from an official's standpoint. As you found out above, it sureashell can lead to confrontation though. If you want to <b>respond</b> to a coach that wants to banter a little bit, fine, but do not <b>ever</b> initiate sessions like that.

You were directly responsible for that confrontation. If you keep away from the coach except for any info that must be passed along, you won't find yourself in situations like that.

Let the conversations come <b>from</b> the coaches...not vice-versa.

That is a statement I'd stay well away from....to many explosive possibilities.

Stay professional when in stripes!
 

I agree w/ previous responses. Camron's quote of your initial attempt to make small talk explains much of why you had this confrontation and unpleasant game

DO NOT initiate pre-game "banter", even if you think you are familiar acquantences with the coach(es). This does not mean you have to be rude or discourteous, just avoid putting yourself in a position that can (and often times does) become contentious.

Chalk it up to a lesson learned, the hard way.
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I will also agree that what you said to the coach would not be seen as appropriate in any way, unless you really knew that coach very, very well and they have went out of their way to give you credit for your ability. Other than that, leave those kinds of conversation alone. You are opening yourself (and you did) to the coach to overreact to what you have to say and the conversation might lead to more problems.

Peace

Hello Coach ....
 

Rookie officials: Please take serious note of Jurassic Referee's comments.

Now's the time of year when we often see more than two head coaches in the gym, coaches scouting teams, getting ready for conference, or state, tournaments. When I see a coach in the gym, and if he's anywhere near me, I simply extend my hand for a handshake, and say, "Hello coach, nice to see you". Period. End of discussion.

I do know her very well. I would say I have done 20 games for her and see her at all of her husbands games and we speak. This was the first time I officiated her game in 2 years.

Live and learn. Remember, I was a coach once also. 8 years as an offical and 11 years as a coach. I talked to all the officials when I coached and I never said a nasty word before the game and rarely ever after a game.

Thanks for the feed back.

A coach wanting to chat me up before a game is very different than me initiating the conversation (which I don't.)

What she heard: "Hey 'coach', you and your hubby were a%%&&&&s last night. If you're one today -and I expect that you will-, I'll take GREAT satisfaction in T'ing you up and tossing you out!"

Morman ????
 

How many does she have ???

Coaches....What can you say? A lot.

Coaches....What should you say? Very little.

You cannot misquote silence.

First you spelled the word wrong... it is Mormon,

Second to set the record straight the church banned polygamy in 1896

No difference than over the back, reaching or several other myths debunked on this board :)

"Everything Coming Up Roses"
 

The title of my post referred to the famous Broadway singer, Ethel Morman.

http://re3.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/m1/2061052292

Aren't there still some Mormons that practice polygomy, however with multiple wives and one husband, rather than one wife and multiple husbands, as I was referring to in the post?

I believe that there's a Utahref on the NFHS forum? Maybe he, or one of his wives, can settle this debate?

As previously mentioned the church banned polygamy in 1896.

There are splinter/fundamentalist groups that practice but it is illegal.

The Utah Constitution bans polygamy as well. It is a crimnal offense although not heavily prosecuted unless sex abuse of a minor involved..

65 In The Slow Lane ...
 

And it's illegal to travel faster than 65 mph in the State of Connecticut.