AP question

[Adam]

Look at the definition of the throwin; specifically how it ends.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Look at the definition of the throwin; specifically how it ends.

Yup, but then look at case 7.6.3 Sitch A. If the throw-in hadn-t ended, why would the basket count?

I guess they're defining a pass to include reaching the ball through the plane??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Yup, but then look at case 7.6.3 Sitch A. If the throw-in hadn-t ended, why would the basket count?

I guess they're defining a pass to include reaching the ball through the plane??

Then B should get the ball on the held ball situation discussed in my OP.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Then B should get the ball on the held ball situation discussed in my OP.

Read it as "The throw in ends when the released ball is legally touched."

In the OP, the ball wasn't released.

In the revision, the ball was released (but not "voluntarily" -- that doesn't matter).

In the case play, yes, it's assuming action that would be a "held ball" if it happened during inbounds play.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Read it as "The throw in ends when the released ball is legally touched."

In the OP, the ball wasn't released.

In the revision, the ball was released (but not "voluntarily" -- that doesn't matter).

In the case play, yes, it's assuming action that would be a "held ball" if it happened during inbounds play.

Just another example of the need for re-working the rule book.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Read it as "The throw in ends when the released ball is legally touched."

In the OP, the ball wasn't released.

In the revision, the ball was released (but not "voluntarily" -- that doesn't matter).

This makes sense. Just wish the rule was more clear.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

. Just wish the rule was more clear.

What isn't clear about rule 4-42-5--"The throw-in ends when the passed ball touches....."?

You never had a "passed" ball in the play being discussed, so the throw-in never ended. Therefore, the arrow doesn't change.

Y'alls are just over-thinking this one way too much.

[Adam]

So you're saying I was right!

Word.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Wait a minute!! You said the ball should go to B. That's NOT right.

I was talking about my posts 22, 28, 31, and 33. Without the throwin ending, A should keep the arrow. If the throwin ends here without a pass, then B should keep the ball and the case book is wrong.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I was talking about my posts 22, 28, 31, and 33. Without the throwin ending, A should keep the arrow. If the throwin ends here without a pass, then B should keep the ball and the case book is wrong.

Ah. This thread does get a little confusing. Even the perch reference is a little ambiguous. Is it piscine as JR alludes to, or rather psittacine as from Tony?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Ah. This thread does get a little confusing. Even the perch reference is a little ambiguous. Is it piscine as JR alludes to, or rather psittacine as from Tony?

That's funny, I had JR pegged for a Taurus.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

That's funny, I had JR pegged for a Taurus.

Psittacine on you.