Q from 1st Year: Shooting Foul on blocked shot

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mbyron

I agree with Nevada, though I'm not sure of the percentages. Participants around here expect a no-call when a shot is blocked, unless there is significant contact. I'm not sure how to quantify 'significant'.

Significant is the shooter being smacked in the face or knocked on his azz.

JMO.

[cmckenna]

It's important to watch what else the blocker is doing as well though, isn't it? I have seen many times where the defender uses a hand on the shooter to push himself up thus gaining an advantage or going in to the shooter hard with the body.

Everyone in the gym except us is looking at the ball so when a foul is called on this action it draws a lot of grief because all they see is the blocked shot.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by cmckenna

It's important to watch what else the blocker is doing as well though, isn't it? I have seen many times where the defender uses a hand on the shooter to push himself up thus gaining an advantage or going in to the shooter hard with the body.

Everyone in the gym except us is looking at the ball so when a foul is called on this action it draws a lot of grief because all they see is the blocked shot.

When the contact happens during the shot, ie before the ball leaves the hands, that's a much different scenario than what's being discussed here. In the kind of sitch you're discussing, you have to gauge how much contact there is, how legal that contact is, and the A/D, just as you would with any other contact. I tend to err on the side of "protect the shooter" although I was working last year on not being quite as protective. But you're right that whatever you do call will often not be seen by the crowd, so their reaction is not a good way to evaluate your call.

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Significant is the shooter being smacked in the face or knocked on his azz.

JMO.

Had a situation last week where an airborne shooter had his (lay-up) shot blocked (out of bounds) hard and clean...the problem was that the blocker got the shooter's arm after the clean block.

I had a no call...the player came up and showed me the red mark on his arm as I was administering the throw-in.

I told him to turn around and walk away...quick. He did, and later apologized for "showing me up". I told him, "that's cool...and if you really got hit like that, I might have missed it."

Watta ya think?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

Watta ya think?

Who knows? Without seeing it, it sounds like it might be a clean block followed by incidental contact.