Slapping backboard on shot

[jodibuck]

Team A player makes layup, then slaps backboard with both hands. Coach of Team B yells for technical foul. My referee tells the coach the slapping of backboard was incidental. We discussed it at halftime, and he said offensive slapping of backboard is not a technical. He said it can be called only if the defensive player slaps backboard trying to bring attention to himself. The rule book does not specify offense or defense. My referee also advised for us to not "put something in the game". I've heard this so many times. It seems some of our veteran officials want to enforce certain rules, and let other rules go, just to get the game over.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by jodibuck

Team A player makes layup, then slaps backboard with both hands. Coach of Team B yells for technical foul. My referee tells the coach the slapping of backboard was incidental. We discussed it at halftime, and he said offensive slapping of backboard is not a technical. He said it can be called only if the defensive player slaps backboard trying to bring attention to himself. The rule book does not specify offense or defense. My referee also advised for us to not "put something in the game". I've heard this so many times. It seems some of our veteran officials want to enforce certain rules, and let other rules go, just to get the game over.

Your partner is wrong. Coach was right about the rule, although not right about yelling. You're right about not picking and choosing which rules to enforce. One question: Why didn't you call it?

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by jodibuck

Team A player makes layup, then slaps backboard with both hands. Coach of Team B yells for technical foul. My referee tells the coach the slapping of backboard was incidental. We discussed it at halftime, and he said offensive slapping of backboard is not a technical. He said it can be called only if the defensive player slaps backboard trying to bring attention to himself. The rule book does not specify offense or defense. My referee also advised for us to not "put something in the game". I've heard this so many times. It seems some of our veteran officials want to enforce certain rules, and let other rules go, just to get the game over.

This is a judgement call, the way you describe it, it appears to be intentional.


Section 3

A player shall not

ART. 5 . . . Illegally contact the backboard/ring by:


b. Intentionally slapping or striking the backboard or causing the ring to vibrate while a try or tap is in flight or is touching the backboard or is in the basket or in the cylinder above the basket.

[truerookie]

I agree it's a judgement call. However, I would treat it as if a defensive player is making an attempt to block a shot and slap the backboard. I have nothing in my judgement. I agree with the referee on this one why put somehing in the game. Play on!!

[Zoochy]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I agree it's a judgement call. However, I would treat it as if a defensive player is making an attempt to block a shot and slap the backboard. I have nothing in my judgement. I agree with the referee on this one why put somehing in the game. Play on!!

Let me ask you.. "why would a Player making a lay-up be slapping the backboard?" Is he trying to block his own shot? NO!
Sure, this is one of those 'You have to see it to call it'. But if he is celebrating his lay-up by slapping the backboard, then he gets slapped with a Technical.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by truerookie

I agree it's a judgement call. However, I would treat it as if a defensive player is making an attempt to block a shot and slap the backboard. I have nothing in my judgement. I agree with the referee on this one why put somehing in the game. Play on!!

I generally disagree with truerookie, and this is no exception. There's no reason to slap the backboard on a lay-up, dunk, set shot or any other shot! It's a T, pure and simple.

[deecee]

It also could be a strong layup. Back when I played Sometimes in a drive and layup i would hit the backboard so fast and had to power the ball in that ineveitably I slapped the backboard. It was never intentional and i never wanted to do it as it hurt the @#$@# out of my hands. However it beat the alternative, a block or a missed shot.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by deecee

It also could be a strong layup. Back when I played Sometimes in a drive and layup i would hit the backboard so fast and had to power the ball in that ineveitably I slapped the backboard. It was never intentional and i never wanted to do it as it hurt the @#$@# out of my hands. However it beat the alternative, a block or a missed shot.

Both hands, though? The OP is a both hands slap.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

Both hands, though? The OP is a both hands slap.

Could be. Deecee's logic is correct imo. The shooter could just be following through with his shooting motion.

That's why it's a judgment call. If you think that it's a follow-through, ignore it. If you think that it was jusy meant to draw attention, call it. Any doubts, fuggedaboutit.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Could be. Deecee's logic is correct imo. The shooter could just be following through with his shooting motion.

That's why it's a judgment call. If you think that it's a follow-through, ignore it. If you think that it was jusy meant to draw attention, call it. Any doubts, fuggedaboutit.

RIght. I was figgurin it was the attention type.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

RIght. I was figgurin it was the attention type.

Then figgur on calling a "T".

[crazy voyager]

Originally Posted by deecee

It also could be a strong layup. Back when I played Sometimes in a drive and layup i would hit the backboard so fast and had to power the ball in that ineveitably I slapped the backboard. It was never intentional and i never wanted to do it as it hurt the @#$@# out of my hands. However it beat the alternative, a block or a missed shot.

I have a solution to this I was warming up for a game, going for a strong lay-up. My hand came in contact with the backboard, and the backboard gave me an electrical shock! I hardly made anymore lay-ups
It wasn't that strong but still it's not nice when the backboard hits back
I prefer warnings when it comes to calling the T for a slap of the backboard, I think NFHS and NCAA have much much more strict rules on this though so I can't really answer your question

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

I generally disagree with truerookie, and this is no exception. There's no reason to slap the backboard on a lay-up, dunk, set shot or any other shot! It's a T, pure and simple.

I don't look for anyone to agree with me. However, if you look at the first six words in my reply. You will see that I said it's a judgement call. I further stated that in my judgement I would not make the call of giving a technical.

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Let me ask you.. "why would a Player making a lay-up be slapping the backboard?" Is he trying to block his own shot? NO!
Sure, this is one of those 'You have to see it to call it'. But if he is celebrating his lay-up by slapping the backboard, then he gets slapped with a Technical.

To answer your question: It's not clear in the OP. It's also not clear in the OP if there was a defensive player attempting to block the shot which may have caused the offensive player to go up strong with two hand and with the follow through slapped the backboard. Is there?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by rainmaker

RIght. I was figgurin it was the attention type.

I have never seen a player slap the backboard on a lay up they have attempted. I probably would have passed on this just because it would be such a leap to call a T on something so unusual. I guess if the player did it again then I could go along with the "attention" explanation. Then again that is why you HTBT.

Peace