Q from 1st Year: Shooting Foul on blocked shot

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kblehman

So if the shooter takes a set shot (never leaves the floor) and the shot is blocked cleanly, but the blocker lands on the shooter.... shooting foul or common foul?

By rule, common foul

Related question: we've all seen a defender run at a 3-pt shooter to harass the shot. The shot is gone when the defender arrives, so he turns around to box out the shooter and either hits him hard or gives him that nice buttsy, knocking the shooter down after the shot. Is it a no-call or a common foul?

If the defender knocked down the shooter, it's likley a common foul.

If the shooter flopped (and don't think they don't), then it's nothing.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

So, what do you do in this situation. A1 goes up for a jump shot, B1 crashes into him, but just after A1 returns to the floor. I still have a shooting foul. Should this be a common foul?

Edit: Nevermind, on the situation I presented, I'm assuming there is no block, thus the try hasn't ended. So, no block - it's a shooting foul. Block followed by body (not simaltaneously) - common foul.

Think again.... the act of shooting ends when the shooter returns to the floor. In your description, the foul by B1 occurs after A1 returns to the floor. This is a common foul on B1, team A gets the ball for throw in at the closest spot unless they're in the bonus, in which case A1 will be shooting free throws.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by ILRef80

So, what do you do in this situation. A1 goes up for a jump shot, B1 crashes into him, but just after A1 returns to the floor. I still have a shooting foul. Should this be a common foul?

Edit: Nevermind, on the situation I presented, I'm assuming there is no block, thus the try hasn't ended. So, no block - it's a shooting foul. Block followed by body (not simaltaneously) - common foul.

In addition to JR's response above, in the event there is no blocked shot, a foul on a shooter who has returned to the floor - even if the try is still on its way to the hoop - is not a shooting foul.

The second that player returns a toe to the court, he's no longer an airborne shooter.

[ILRef80]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

In addition to JR's response above, in the event there is no blocked shot, a foul on a shooter who has returned to the floor - even if the try is still on its way to the hoop - is not a shooting foul.

The second that player returns a toe to the court, he's no longer an airborne shooter.

Interesting, thanks for the responses. I've been calling that wrong. Granted, it doesn't happen often, but the few times I have had an offensive player fouled shortly (i.e. within a second of returning to the floor) after returning to the floor, I've called it a shooting foul.

That's what I come here

[hbioteach]

I am more likely to call the foul when arm contact is involved and less so with body contact is involved (passing on most).

[RCH253]

You should likely consider that the contact with the arm/torso should be substantial after the ball is blocked cleanly up top in order for you to have a foul. Many camp instructors where teaching 80% ball 20% player should be let go a few years ago. Something to think about.[/QUOTE]

What if the contact after the block only occurs with the shooter's hand?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by RCH253

What if the contact after the block only occurs with the shooter's hand?

Assuming the contact is simple follow-through from a normal block attempt (so that it ends up looking like a mid-air high-five), it's nada.

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Assuming the contact is simple follow-through from a normal block attempt (so that it ends up looking like a mid-air high-five), it's nada.

Good description.