Timeout to vent - among other things

[lpbreeze]

ha. now I know why ours wont let coaches make comments on arbiter.

[rockyroad]

That's ridiculous Tom. I see no value to allowing coaches to rate and post comments like that. If they're going to be allowed to do that, there should be a time frame imposed - like they can't rate/post comments for the first 48 hours after the game. I know the previous HS assignor around here did not take calls from coaches/AD's until a full 24 hours had passed - so the coaches had to go to another practice or game and couldn't just vent in the heat of the moment after the game ended. An assignor I work for now allows coaches to send in game reports immediately - so I had a game last year where the assignor called me before I was out of the locker room and had a game report in hand - the coach e-mailed it in within 5 min. of the game ending. Ridiculous.

And btw - just to reinforce you (which I know you don't need) - that coach is a grade A a$$-hole.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

That's ridiculous Tom. I see no value to allowing coaches to rate and post comments like that. If they're going to be allowed to do that, there should be a time frame imposed - like they can't rate/post comments for the first 48 hours after the game. I know the previous HS assignor around here did not take calls from coaches/AD's until a full 24 hours had passed - so the coaches had to go to another practice or game and couldn't just vent in the heat of the moment after the game ended. An assignor I work for now allows coaches to send in game reports immediately - so I had a game last year where the assignor called me before I was out of the locker room and had a game report in hand - the coach e-mailed it in within 5 min. of the game ending. Ridiculous.

And btw - just to reinforce you (which I know you don't need) - that coach is a grade A a$$-hole.

Rocky Road:

You would just love it here in Ohio. While all of the leagues and conferences have assignors. The coaches tell the assignors who they can have on their staffs. It only takes one coach to black ball and that official will not work in that league. The coaches also rate the officials and these ratings determine who officiate in the tournament. And I am not done yet: An official has to ask coaches to recommend him to the league/conference assignor.

I hope you didn't hurt yourself when you fell out of your chair because you were laughing so hard.

MTD, Sr.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Rocky Road:

You would just love it here in Ohio. While all of the leagues and conferences have assignors. The coaches tell the assignors who they can have on their staffs. It only takes one coach to black ball and that official will not work in that league. The coaches also rate the officials and these ratings determine who officiate in the tournament. And I am not done yet: An official has to ask coaches to recommend him to the league/conference assignor.

I hope you didn't hurt yourself when you fell out of your chair because you were laughing so hard.

MTD, Sr.

Are you serious??? Who hires the assignors? Do the assignors have any - as the Jurassic one is fond of saying - stones???

[TheOracle]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

An assignor I work for now allows coaches to send in game reports immediately - so I had a game last year where the assignor called me before I was out of the locker room and had a game report in hand - the coach e-mailed it in within 5 min. of the game ending. Ridiculous.

And btw - just to reinforce you (which I know you don't need) - that coach is a grade A a$$-hole.

Rocky, I had a voicemail left on my cell phone 2 years ago from an assignor. The timestamp of the voicemail was 8:55 p.m. Saturday. I was working an 8 p.m. Saturday game. The coach called at halftime of the game to complain about a T that had been given in the first half, and the assignor wanted more detail than usual in the game report from me.

Irritating? Could be. Funny? Absolutely.

[MCJB Ump]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I had a good game going last night...until the fourth quarter.

Looks like that's when it went from good to GREAT!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Instead of walking out, he comes over to me and continues to talk. T number 3.

Once the head coach has been ejected, is he, or she, considered bench personnel, which means the assistant coach now gets an indirect technical foul???

I'm leaning toward no, because the head coach isn't really part of the bench. He, or she, should really be out of the gym????

Citations please.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by tomegun

3. The U1 called a T on the coach for saying, "That was a F'd up call and you all are all F'd up."

I know that you didn't call this T, but in my opinion it should have been a flagrant. The HC is gone right here.

As for the rest of it, way to show your strength and courage.

[SoInZebra]

Just to consider another, albeit extreme, option....at what point would you consider just ending the game? Once the HC is ejected if he refuses to leave and still wants to chase you down and provide commentary, he has failed to comply with the penalty for a technical foul.

I guess my point is the technical fouls were not helping the game and even continuous issuance didn't get things calmed down. Was there any thought process to going that extra step?

[ace]

Originally Posted by SoInZebra

Just to consider another, albeit extreme, option....at what point would you consider just ending the game? Once the HC is ejected if he refuses to leave and still wants to chase you down and provide commentary, he has failed to comply with the penalty for a technical foul.

I guess my point is the technical fouls were not helping the game and even continuous issuance didn't get things calmed down. Was there any thought process to going that extra step?

It's been in my experince that the unbiased sheriffs dept deputy, or constable officer will usually help the coach find the door. now if its a dedicated school cop, they might be unwilling.

I worked a game last saturday where the coach was extremely unhappy with one of my co-officials, and he was waiting for us at the table with some some feedback on how well we were doing. a deputy helped him find his locker room. (no t's or anything, he was just upset that he was getting his butt kicked)