On the Floor, et al

[texaspaul]

man to man, I believe was considered as "HUMAN", not boy or girl...

[ABO77]

I'm trying to break the habit of saying "fouls on" and "stay here"...but whats wrong with saying "on the floor"?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP

"That's a..." or "no - no - no" (preceeding a travel, etc.)

You win. That one is clearly the worst.

Originally Posted by ABO77

I'm trying to break the habit of saying "fouls on" and "stay here"...but whats wrong with saying "on the floor"?

Most players begin the act of shooting while they are still in contact with the floor, so saying "on the floor" doesn't distinguish whether the player was in act of shooting or not. It is a pointless comment which communicates no real information.
Think about these two things:

What if a player takes a set shot instead of a jump shot?

If a player jumps into the air and then is fouled while passing the ball, do you say "in the air?"


It doesn't matter where the player was. It only matters what he was doing.

[Coltdoggs]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Most players begin the act of shooting while they are still in contact with the floor, so saying "on the floor" doesn't distinguish whether the player was in act of shooting or not. It is a pointless comment which communicates no real information.
Think about these two things:

What if a player takes a set shot instead of a jump shot?

If a player jumps into the air and then is fouled while passing the ball, do you say "in the air?"


It doesn't matter where the player was. It only matters what he was doing.

I disagree that it communcates no real info...

Player who gets bumped while driving, you blast the wistle, as soon as the bump/whistle occurs he throws up a shot that goes in...looks like a continuation. Coach and player both want to know why they are not shooting.

I get that you can say NO SHOT or offer explanation BEFORE THE SHOT but I'm still ok with ON THE FLOOR in this case...especially if I am in question as to when my partner actually saw the foul take place and when he whistled the foul.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Coltdoggs

I disagree that it communcates no real info...

Well, Nevadaref pretty clearly pointed out exactly WHY it communicates no real info. It is simply slang that is announcer-speak for "no shot". So just say, "no shot".

I get that you can say NO SHOT or offer explanation BEFORE THE SHOT but I'm still ok with ON THE FLOOR in this case...especially if I am in question as to when my partner actually saw the foul take place and when he whistled the foul.

Sigh. But "on the floor" is completely irrelevant to the question of whether free throws will be awarded, regardless of when he whistled the foul.

Look, it's not going to matter to me one bit whether you say "on the floor" or "no shot". My one piece of advice, don't use "on the floor" at camp.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Well, Nevadaref pretty clearly pointed out exactly WHY it communicates no real info. It is simply slang that is announcer-speak for "no shot". So just say, "no shot".

If it is slang that is equivalent to "no shot" for most of the community then why not use it? "On the floor" while not precise communicates exactly the message you intend to those not as familiar with the rules as you.

btw...are you opposed to saying you googled something when you really should say you performed a web search?

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

btw...are you opposed to saying you googled something when you really should say you performed a web search?

The first time I heard someone say they "googled", I thought they were talking about being a baby. When I was a baby, I googled all the time. Sometimes, depending on what happened that day, I still do.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

If it is slang that is equivalent to "no shot" for most of the community then why not use it? "On the floor" while not precise communicates exactly the message you intend to those not as familiar with the rules as you.

Yup, you're right. I'll start using it, along with "over the back" on rebounding fouls. After all, "over the back" communicates exactly the message I intend to those not as familiar with the rules as I am. Good tip, thanks.

btw...are you opposed to saying you googled something when you really should say you performed a web search?

I'm not. But I've heard that within the Google company, employees are forbidden from using the company name in that manner. The owners are afraid that using "google" as a verb will essentially cause it to lose its unique meaning as the "Google company". This is what happened with "aspirin", which used to be a unique brand name.

I didn't really mean to get drawn into this conversation. I just stopped by to say Merry Christmas to everybody. I'll go back under my bridge now.

[Mark Padgett]

In a wreck game I was working between the Sopranos and one of the other "families", a player was dribbling and got shot multiple times from someone in the stands. His body was scattered in a bloody mess all over the court. I looked down at it and declared "on the floor". Obviously, I couldn't rule "before the shot". BTW - Tony hit a jumper at the horn to win, 2-0.

Damn, gotta take those holiday meds.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Well, Nevadaref pretty clearly pointed out exactly WHY it communicates no real info. It is simply slang that is announcer-speak for "no shot". So just say, "no shot".

Sigh. But "on the floor" is completely irrelevant to the question of whether free throws will be awarded, regardless of when he whistled the foul.

Look, it's not going to matter to me one bit whether you say "on the floor" or "no shot". My one piece of advice, don't use "on the floor" at camp.

I have to completely agree with Chuck on this. It might be a term that everyone truly understands, but do not use it at any camp if you want to look like you do not know what you are doing.

Peace