NCAA starting the clock...

[All_Heart]

Does anyone now who is supposed to chop the clock (L or T or both) in the front court when the ball is being thrown in on the end line? (Without Precision timing)

A couple of us looked through the Men's NCAA Mechanic book and couldn't find a definitive reference.

I've talked to a couple of officials and I'm getting conflicting answers. I would like to hear what people think it is as well as a page number if you have it.

[JRutledge]

There are no specific mechanics with PTS. You really do not need the start clock signal because all 3 officials can start the clock (along with the table). I have been privileges to use the system about 5 or 6 times in my career and we just came up with what we should do on the fly. Usually we have the Trail always chop along with the other two officials being prepared to start the clock.

Peace

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

There are no specific mechanics with PTS. You really do not need the start clock signal because all 3 officials can start the clock (along with the table). I have been privileges to use the system about 5 or 6 times in my career and we just came up with what we should do on the fly. Usually we have the Trail always chop along with the other two officials being prepared to start the clock.

Peace

Thanks JRut, however I was looking for the mechanic when NOT using PTS.

[truerookie]

For NCAA-W. The lead blows the whistle and the Trail chops the clock.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

Thanks JRut, however I was looking for the mechanic when NOT using PTS.

Unless your supervisor has a very specific procedure the administering official does not "chopping" for most throw-ins. The only time when this is not done mechanically, is when the ball is below the FT line extended and the Trail has the count and the chop. There are some that believe the Trail should chop on all half court situations even if the ball is on the end line. I am not a fan of that last mechanic, but I know people who advocate this and teach it.

Peace

[Scrapper1]

There is a new mechanic in this year's CCA Men's manual, stating that in end-of-half situations, it's recommended that the Trail chop time in addition to whichever official is administering the throw-in.

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

There is a new mechanic in this year's CCA Men's manual, stating that in end-of-half situations, it's recommended that the Trail chop time in addition to whichever official is administering the throw-in.

I saw that and was a little confused by it. Why would this be needed only in end-of-half situations? What is an end-of-half situtation (i.e. how much time left)?

This seems to say that Trail normally doesn't chop the clock if the ball is on the endline. I've also heard that it is optional for the trail to chop.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

Why would this be needed only in end-of-half situations?

That's a good question. But I don't know the answer.

What is an end-of-half situtation (i.e. how much time left)?

I would say inside the last minute.

This seems to say that Trail normally doesn't chop the clock if the ball is on the endline.

I would say that's correct. Normally, the Trail doesn't chop (on the Men's side).

I've also heard that it is optional for the trail to chop.

You mean all the time? I've not heard that.

[TRef21]

For NCAA men's when the ball is being inbounded and there is little time left in the period, The CCA manual said that "the trail official will also give the signal to start the clock. That will help the official timer as to when to start the game clock" (CCA Mens Manual, 25). In a two person, i know it's not in the book, but in pregame I will discuss this with my partner. If he is lead opposite table, or table side, as Trail do you want me to help with the chop of the clock? If they say yes I will help, if they say no than thats good to.

Tommy

[Mark Dexter]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

You mean all the time? I've not heard that.

I've seen a few refs do it. Not sure that it's an approved mechanic, though.