Travel or not...

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Sitting up is definitely legal and contained in case 4.44.5 Sit B.

I'm just asking for a citation that allows a player to pivot on his/her butt.

There is no citation, as you know. A player sitting up can make normal movements to keep the ball away from an opponent, as in twist at the waist, move their arms, etc. They cannot swivel per se while sitting there. If they turn in a part-circle on their butts, they're traveling.

It's cute to say something about a player having a pivot-cheek or pivot-butt while they're sitting on the floor with the ball. It's not a good idea though imo for any rules interpreter to use that term unless they're also going to explain what a player can legally do while sitting there with the ball.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

There is no citation, as you know. A player sitting up can make normal movements to keep the ball away from an opponent, as in twist at the waist, move their arms, etc. They cannot swivel per se while sitting there. If they turn in a part-circle on their butts, they're traveling.

Got a rules citation? Is there a rule which prohibits this action?