Head Coache's Rule

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I'll agree mostly except to say it's not clear to me the coach was on the floor. Even if he was ti's not entirely so difficult to shoo the coach off the court in 2 man, just yell across "hey coach!" and indicate by gesture to move back. Or get your partner's attention and have him do it. And unless he was REALLY out on the floor and not just standing there minding his own business I would find it OOO to say anything about it.

Dan, the coach was not on the floor; on the sideline out of the designated box only when the opposing team is shooting free-throw.

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by truerookie

Dan, the coach was not on the floor; on the sideline out of the designated box only when the opposing team is shooting free-throw.

Then leave him alone.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Dan_ref

I'll agree mostly except to say it's not clear to me the coach was on the floor.

Yup, I was still typing while others were posting. After I finished my post, I read the other ones, and realized that I assumed too much. My bad.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by truerookie

10-5-1 By state association adoption, the head coach may be off the bench in front of his/her seat within the confines of the designated coaching box, as in 1-13-2 , for the purpose of coaching his/her team.

I went to observed a varsity tournament at a local high school. They have an annual tournament for their conference. Well, a coach of the opposing team was off the bench every time the other team went to shoot free-throws below the free throw line (first half). I found this odd because if a player was in the same location and he/she is not in the lane spaces or behind the arc it is a violation (disconcertion).

So, after the game I asked the officials why they allowed the coach to be in that location in the first half. The answer they gave me pissed me off. As long as, the coach is coaching and not bothering them directly they did not have a problem with it.

So, I brought up the disconcetion situation and they stated I was being an OOO and that I would have a hard time advancing worrying about the location of a coach when he/she is just coaching.


Coaches do rate officials in Missouri.

Thoughts?

Personally, I'm with you about enforcing the coaching box, but I've learned that most officials are not on board with that. They just don't have the desire to make the effort. So yes what you heard is a popular excuse. The NCAA has made it a huge point this year that that attitude is unacceptable. We'll see how long this remains the case and if it affects assignments and NCAA/NIT selections.

That said, I think that you need to specify how big the box is in your state. In mine it's 14 feet, which does extend below the FT line. It starts at the 28 foot line and goes towards the end line, so the coach can be down to about the second marked lane space below the FT line PER THE RULE. Now if you have a six foot box, then it's halfway between the FT line and the top of the FT semicircle.

I've never felt that enforcing the rules and cleaning up the game is OOO, but there are many who do and many who have stated so on this forum.

[truerookie]

[QUOTE=Nevadaref] Now if you have a six foot box, then it's halfway between the FT line and the top of the FT semicircle.

This one was six.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I've never felt that enforcing the rules and cleaning up the game is OOO, but there are many who do and many who have stated so on this forum.

Enforcing the rules and cleaning up the game is not and never has had anything to do with being an OOO. An official that imposes his very own personal, stricter than normal criteria, when officiating a game is an OOO.

You, sir, are the perfect storm of OOOism.

[JRutledge]

Nevada,

I was not talking to you in the first place. So what I had to say was not about what you think of the ratings system. So you should not even have referenced me and my point.

I will also agree with JR, you are an OOO at the top of the list. Keep quoting rules and let the real knowledgeable officials reference philosophies and how to really officiate a game.

Peace