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Old Mon Sep 10, 2007, 09:57am
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Originally Posted by Old School
Excuse me! How was it the wrong call?
Apparently there was confusion stemming from your original post of this play on what happened, so let's go back in time for a moment:

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After reading up the definition of a multiple foul, I once called it. Player driving in for a layup was foul at the top of the key, his momentum took him in for a layup, which another player came across and hampered him again shooting the layup.
Now, from this description, it is reasonably assumed that you had one player get fouled by two different defenders during a live ball. This can happen when a player is fouled by one defender as he starts his shooting motion and another defender before that shooting motion ceases (or before the shooter lands.) Since the shooting motion has started, the ball does not become dead on the first foul, but instead remains live until the shooting motion is complete and the airborne shooter has returned to the floor.

Alternatively, a "multiple foul" would occur if two players hacked a shooter at the same time. Normally, in this play, one player is picked and only one foul is called. Since you stated you'd read up on the definition of multiple foul, I figured you maybe actually had one.
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Incorrect, as usual from you. If the 2nd foul needs to be called, it's a dead ball foul, a dead ball foul is a technical, or i could say it was apart of the original move and make it a multiple foul.
Gee, from this sentence, you seem to know that your original scenario was not in fact a multiple foul; it is a false multiple.
If it's a false mutliple, you'd penalize each foul in the order it occurred. Shoot the personal foul shots and then shoot the technical foul shots. If it's a multiple, you only shoot two shots. The difference is major. So, when you say you administered it by the rules, please forgive my skepticism and explain how you did it.
Here, you give further description of the play:
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Let's table our imagination here. The player was fouled at the top of the key, my partenr called it, foul was on the floor, on the drive. The player continued to dribble towards the basket after the foul call, maybe he didn't hear the whistle but he wasn't going to be denied on this move.
This is a classic false multiple. Give the original fouler his personal foul, give the second fouler his technical foul and shoot the two free throws. You admit the correct call is the technical on the 2nd player due to the fact that it's dead ball contact. However:
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In fact, I did use it again and it encountered the same reaction. After about 10 minutes getting everybody settle back down, we got back to play. So I have decided to screw the multiple foul, that 2nd foul on the same player will be a technical foul.
This is from your original post, and strongly indicates you called a personal foul on the 2nd fouler rather than a technical foul. Let me ask, which coach was upset? How do you think making it a technical foul would have kept the coach calmer?
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