Does this constitute fighting ?

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Sigh.....

How can it be a good call when there was contact involved? And if you want to involve "fighting", then you'd better be throwing two players out also.

Methinks you need to learn the basics also.

Why are you so critical about everything? Bash, bash, bash......you are a respected official, but you the way you come across makes people cringe when you respond. PM me if you would like to learn some people skills.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Why are you so critical about everything? Bash, bash, bash......you are a respected official, but you the way you come across makes people cringe when you respond. PM me if you would like to learn some people skills.

I'm critical of people that deliberately post something that is completely false, rules-wise. Part of the idea behind this site is the advancement of officiating knowledge. Anyone posting nonsense that is obviously wrong per the rules does absolutely nothing to help officiating knowledge.

If you want to say that the call that was made by Old School was a good call, even though that call was completely wrong by rule, hey, be my guest. Don't let the fact that some other rules-knowledgeable guys like Nevada and MTD Sr. disagree completely with you also. Don't get bent out of shape though when it gets pointed out that you are as wrong as Old School was.

Some answers aren't "opinions". They are either right or wrong according to the written rules. This particular one is a no-brainer. You can't call a technical foul for the live-ball contact as described, no matter what you and Old school think. And insisting that you can do so without any rules backing at all is ludicrous.

Officiating isn't objective when you call something that the rules won't allow to be called. You can't make up your own rules, believe it or not.

Jmo......like it or not.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

I'm critical of people that deliberately post something that is completely false, rules-wise. Part of the idea behind this site is the advancement of officiating knowledge. Anyone posting nonsense that is obviously wrong per the rules does absolutely nothing to help officiating knowledge.

If you want to say that the call that was made by Old School was a good call, even though that call was completely wrong by rule, hey, be my guest. Don't let the fact that some other rules-knowledgeable guys like Nevada and MTD Sr. disagree completely with you also. Don't get bent out of shape though when it gets pointed out that you are as wrong as Old School was.

Some answers aren't "opinions". They are either right or wrong according to the written rules. This particular one is a no-brainer. You can't call a technical foul for the live-ball contact as described, no matter what you and Old school think. And insisting that you can do so without any rules backing at all is ludicrous.

Officiating isn't objective when you call something that the rules won't allow to be called. You can't make up your own rules, believe it or not.

Jmo......like it or not.

Thanks, I am glad there is at least one perect person on this earth, do you walk on water as well?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

Thanks, I am glad there is at least one perect person on this earth, do you walk on water as well?

If you want to post anything that refutes what I've said so far about the particular rules being discussed, please do so.

You and Old School are completely wrong in regards to those rules. If you feel like disagreeing further with that , feel free to cite something that will back up what you're asserting.

It's not a matter of being perfect. It is a matter of getting the call right. That's the important part.

[IREFU2]

All I am saying is that you need to have a little more tact when you post. This is a learning board for everyone. I do value your input.....

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by IREFU2

All I am saying is that you need to have a little more tact when you post. This is a learning board for everyone. I do value your input.....

You're probably right. I can do better in some responses.

Bad Woddy. Bad, bad Woddy.(disregard...irrelevant inside joke)

I apologize for my initial response to you. It certainly could have been worded better.

The general message remains the same though. This is a learning board for everyone, but especially newer officials, players, coaches and casual readers. It is incredibly frustrating sometimes to see basic rules completely butchered by the Old Schools of the world, and then have them endlessly insist that they are right without giving any rules backing. It just makes everybody's job harder down the line when newbies and non-officials don't know what to believe.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

You're probably right. I can do better in some responses.

Bad Woddy. Bad, bad Woddy.(disregard...irrelevant inside joke)

I apologize for my initial response to you. It certainly could have been worded better.

The general message remains the same though. This is a learning board for everyone, but especially newer officials, players, coaches and casual readers. It is incredibly frustrating sometimes to see basic rules completely butchered by the Old Schools of the world, and then have them endlessly insist that they are right without giving any rules backing. It just makes everybody's job harder down the line when newbies and non-officials don't know what to believe.

I agree...friends???? PLEASE!!!!