Fighting

[livingthedream]

A1 and A2 are legally substituted for and are now bench personnel. Once on the bench, A1 and A2 begin throwing a series of punches at each other and cursing at each other. As an official, would you do anything? If so, how would you handle this situation?

Would your ruling or reaction to the situation change if A1 and A2 were legal players on the court while fighting and cursing?

[tjones1]

Nope, if they are fighting, they are fighting. They are hitting the showers early in my game. I'd charge a flagrant technical foul to them for fighting, that's an indirect on the coach since they are bench personnel.

The only change is it wouldn't be an indirect on the coach.

[mick]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Nope, if they are fighting, they are fighting. They are hitting the showers early in my game. I'd charge a flagrant technical foul to them for fighting, that's an indirect on the coach since they are bench personnel.

The only change is it wouldn't be an indirect on the coach.

Tanner,
Send them to the same shower ? What if no lockerroom supervision is available?

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by mick

Tanner,
Send them to the same shower ? What if no lockerroom supervision is available?

Good point, in that case, sit'em on the bench.

[Ref Daddy]

Isn't it true the NFHS wording on fighting is geared around opponents? I think so but agree - Lock them down somewhere. I also read that next years rule changes will specifically address inter-team fighting.

No place for this on the court.

Fighting is fighting ... against refereee's, opponents, fans, admin, table, cheerleaders or teammates.

[BillyMac]

Ref Daddy:

You're right. I had to look it up. The NFHS defines "fighting" as "acts that involve opponents", Rule 4-18-1,2.

However, the beginning of this rule states that fighting includes, but "is not limited to", acts mentioned in Article 1 and 2.

Does this mean that we can penalize teammates for fighting, possibly under Rule 10-3-9 "fighting", or under Rule 10-3-7 "unsporting fouls" which also includes the phrase "not limited to" ?

Or perhaps we can't penalize fighting teammates at all ?

Forum members. Help me out. I've always assumed that I could penalize any fighting during a basketball game. Maybe? Maybe not?

[muxbule]

Are you really saying players from the same team are fighting each other (A1 and A2)? If so, that coach has that team in control.