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Old Thu Jul 12, 2007, 05:04pm
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If little Billy does something that warrants ejection, then I guess that Grandpa or Aunt Mary are out of luck. And I did have a situation similar to your hypothetical situation: Girls' H.S. varsity soccer game. I am the Head Referee in a Dual System officiating crew. H1 is wearing a cast, that is padded, but still illegal. H1's sister, who was attending college away from home, had returned home to see her sister play. Today's game would be the only time that the older sister would get a chance to see her younger sister play that year. I did not let play H1 play because of the cast, even though her coach said that other officials had let her play with the cast including my partner who was the Head Referee in Home team's last game three days before.

Officials are paid big bucks to make the tough decisions. If you can't stand the heat, then stay out of the kitchen.

As others have said, I am glad I do not have to officiate with you.

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May I inquire what exactly was "still illegal" about the cast since it is permissible for players to wear hard casts in an NFHS game if it is properly padded and there is a medical release present. (4-2-1c and play ruling 4.2.1 Situation C) What specifically about the situation made you withhold referee approval?


4.2.1 Situation C: A player wears a hard cast on an arm or a hard splint on a finger that has been covered with a foam-rubber padding and then wrapped securely with a soft elastic athletic bandage. RULING: Legal. Players may participate if wearing a hard cast or hard splint if properly padded and with medical permission and referee approval.
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Old Thu Jul 12, 2007, 08:26pm
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May I inquire what exactly was "still illegal" about the cast since it is permissible for players to wear hard casts in an NFHS game if it is properly padded and there is a medical release present. (4-2-1c and play ruling 4.2.1 Situation C) What specifically about the situation made you withhold referee approval?


4.2.1 Situation C: A player wears a hard cast on an arm or a hard splint on a finger that has been covered with a foam-rubber padding and then wrapped securely with a soft elastic athletic bandage. RULING: Legal. Players may participate if wearing a hard cast or hard splint if properly padded and with medical permission and referee approval.

NevadaRef:

The year that this game was played was two years before the rule was changed to what it is now. At the time of the game in question the Rule and Casebook Play prohibited the wearing of casts period.

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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 06:20pm
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4.2.1 Situation C: A player wears a hard cast on an arm or a hard splint on a finger that has been covered with a foam-rubber padding and then wrapped securely with a soft elastic athletic bandage. RULING: Legal. Players may participate if wearing a hard cast or hard splint if properly padded and with medical permission and referee approval.
Ok, I've been away from the board for a couple weeks, so maybe I'm missing something, but is this a joke? There is no 4.2.1 and 3.5 SITUATION A still clearly states that metal or hard casts on the hand or elbow "shall always be declared illegal".

Is the joke on me?
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 07:06pm
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Ok, I've been away from the board for a couple weeks, so maybe I'm missing something, but is this a joke? There is no 4.2.1 and 3.5 SITUATION A still clearly states that metal or hard casts on the hand or elbow "shall always be declared illegal".

Is the joke on me?
Methinks they were discussing that "football" that Mr. David Beckham plays.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 09:06pm
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Methinks they were discussing that "football" that Mr. David Beckham plays.
My mistake. I thought I was on the basketball forum.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 10:57pm
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My mistake. I thought I was on the basketball forum.
How could you have made such a silly error?!?
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Old Fri Jul 20, 2007, 08:21pm
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My mistake. I thought I was on the basketball forum.
Well, it used to be.

Then some guy named "Chuck" made a baseball thread.

Been downhill ever since.
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Old Fri Jul 20, 2007, 07:29am
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Methinks they were discussing that "football" that Mr. David Beckham plays.
Beckham? I think I've heard of him. Isn't his wife starring in the TV version of the old Eddie Murphy movie, "Coming to America."
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Old Fri Jul 20, 2007, 11:51am
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Beckham? I think I've heard of him. Isn't his wife starring in the TV version of the old Eddie Murphy movie, "Coming to America."
Either that or "How To Marry A Millionaire".

Could be worse. Could be "Psycho"!
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 07:26pm
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Ok, I've been away from the board for a couple weeks, so maybe I'm missing something, but is this a joke? There is no 4.2.1 and 3.5 SITUATION A still clearly states that metal or hard casts on the hand or elbow "shall always be declared illegal".

Is the joke on me?
Reading is fundamental.

Nevada was responding to an MTD Sr. post about soccer by citing the relevant soccer rule.
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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 07:45pm
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Reading is fundamental.

Nevada was responding to an MTD Sr. post about soccer by citing the relevant soccer rule.

I apologize to everybody for causing confusion in this thread.

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Old Thu Jul 19, 2007, 08:08pm
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I apologize to everybody for causing confusion in this thread.
The only one that was confused was Skippy. That's really nothing new.

And maybe Old School, but that's got nothing to do with this thread.
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