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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 03:45pm
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It is very possible his state allowed this mechanic to be use. Mechanics are not something the NF can mandate (or try to mandate) across the board. Rules are a different issue.
Fair enough. I wonder if he'll say whether that's the case.

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Secondly it is never going to completely stop coaches from complaining. Nothing will ever stop coaches from doing that. But giving a signal will greatly help as did the Team Control Foul signal did. Before the TC foul, we had to explain why were not shooting FTs. Now the coaches see the signal and understand the concept without a word.
I completely agree with that statement. I hope it causes coaches to yell at their players to get closer to get the count back on instead of yelling at us that we should keep the count going.
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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 06:24pm
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I confess that I, too, have used the signal in HS games -- not as a matter of course, but in response to a coach asking me to count.

With no signal, the coach doesn't know if you're blind or have poor judgment. With, the signal, he'll know what to complain about.
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Old Fri May 04, 2007, 06:25pm
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it will keep coach and players from yelling 5 secons Ref!!!!!
You must work all public school games.
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Old Tue May 08, 2007, 07:07pm
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Does anyone thing that what is posted on the NFHS site, re: the warning sound for subs at 5 after a DQ is a typo?


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No, I think that the NFHS did this on purpose. Now all warning horns are sounded 15 seconds prior to the end of the interval. Go take a look at my previous post in this thread.
From the NFHS press release of May 7, 2007:

"The final revision approved by the committee was changing the warning horn for a 30-second time-out to be sounded with 15 seconds remaining. This change makes all warning horns uniform for intermissions, time-outs and the disqualified player interval."

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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 10:01am
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You must work all public school games.
Nope, I do private school as well!
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 11:19am
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I'm going to start using signals to indicate why I'm not calling every possible call. I've always wanted to look like a mime - NOT!!!!!
Or as Borat would say "I've always wanted to NOT!!!!! look like a mime".
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 11:49am
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So, the way I read your post...you knowingly use a college-only mechanic in HS games and then say you seldom use it in college games? Do you institute a shot clock at your HS games too?
Just wondering..... what states other than ours use the shot clock for girls and boys? We use college rules governing the shot clock except for the newer kicked ball violation -- in hs it is still reset on any kicked ball.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 11:52am
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Just wondering..... what states other than ours use the shot clock for girls and boys? We use college rules governing the shot clock except for the newer kicked ball violation -- in hs it is still reset on any kicked ball.
No shot clock in VA.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:10pm
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Just wondering..... what states other than ours use the shot clock for girls and boys? We use college rules governing the shot clock except for the newer kicked ball violation -- in hs it is still reset on any kicked ball.
There are only SEVEN states that use a shot clock in either girls or boys HS play.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:10pm
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Just wondering..... what states other than ours use the shot clock for girls and boys? We use college rules governing the shot clock except for the newer kicked ball violation -- in hs it is still reset on any kicked ball.
Some of the New England prep schools use it.

Regular leagues in CT don't.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 07:11pm
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There are only SEVEN states that use a shot clock in either girls' or boys' HS play.
See corrections above.

Also, what's with not listing the states? Is this a Jeopardy! clue??
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 10:35pm
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In NY, Boys use NFHS with a shot clock.

Girls use NCAA W
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 11:14pm
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Nope, I do private school as well!
I can't believe that private school students do not correctly pronounce "seconds".
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 11:21pm
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Also, what's with not listing the states? Is this a Jeopardy! clue??
I've listed them on this forum before and you know that. BTW the statement that SEVEN states currently use a shot clock in HS is the official word from the NFHS office.

But just for you...
CA (both), MA (both), NY (both), MD (girls), WA (girls), ND (both, Class A only), [I'm missing one more at the moment. I'll look it up and edit this.] and some private school leagues in various areas such as VA (girls) and a strange multi-state monstrosity called the New England Preparatory School Athletic Council.

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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 11:46pm
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We use college rules governing the shot clock...
You are mistaken. You many think that you use the NCAA rules for the shot clock in CA HS games, but in truth your official policy is to employ the rules modifications published in the CBOA manual which were written by Bill White.
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