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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 07:32pm
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I am going to have to disagree with you (I do not expect you to get mad about it like some people). I think this is a good signal. This is one of those signals that can give information. It tells everyone you are not counting for a specific reason. Many times you may not count, but they are still calling for a count. This signal will tell everyone exactly why. Usually this would take place on a one on one situation where the players are up top and the defender cannot decide if he wants to guard the player or stand back. I think it adds to information. When you stop a count you could be stopping it for many reasons. It is not a signal you have to use or use at all. I think just like the kicking signal, it gives information.

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Actually, on one level, I agree with you - it does convey information. And, if it will now be an approved signal, I will probably start using it. My pet peeve is officials using unapproved signals when they didn't need to. If I was counting, it was a closely-guarded situation. If I wasn't counting, it wasn't. I didn't think it was necessary to not count, and give a signal as well. It was redundant. It was redundant. Get what I mean? Get what I mean?
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 08:05pm
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Actually, on one level, I agree with you - it does convey information. And, if it will now be an approved signal, I will probably start using it. My pet peeve is officials using unapproved signals when they didn't need to. If I was counting, it was a closely-guarded situation. If I wasn't counting, it wasn't. I didn't think it was necessary to not count, and give a signal as well. It was redundant. It was redundant. Get what I mean? Get what I mean?
I only used the signal during college games. I would only use it a handful of times an entire season. I just think the signal is best used during specific situations and should be used sparingly.

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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 04:04pm
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This seems rather significant:
4-42-5: Changing that a throw-in ends when the throw-in pass is "legally" touched by another player.

It seems to me it will have ramifications for the arrow. Right?
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 04:07pm
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This seems rather significant:
4-42-5: Changing that a throw-in ends when the throw-in pass is "legally" touched by another player.

It seems to me it will have ramifications for the arrow. Right?
Good ramifications, IMHO.

AP throw-in. A1 releases the throw-in pass, which is immediately kicked by B1. Team A is awarded a throw-in for the violation and the arrow is not switched.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 04:10pm
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Good ramifications, IMHO.

AP throw-in. A1 releases the throw-in pass, which is immediately kicked by B1. Team A is awarded a throw-in for the violation and the arrow is not switched.
I'm not a fan.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 04:54pm
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Good ramifications, IMHO.

AP throw-in. A1 releases the throw-in pass, which is immediately kicked by B1. Team A is awarded a throw-in for the violation and the arrow is not switched.
Agreed. This is what several of us have been asserting for a couple years with regard to this situation...when the rule was ambiguous. Now there is no debate....a kick on the throwin occurs before the throwin ends.
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Old Mon Apr 30, 2007, 05:11pm
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Agreed. This is what several of us have been asserting for a couple years with regard to this situation...when the rule was ambiguous. Now their is no debate....a kick on the throwin occurs before the throwin ends.
I'll give them credit for clarity here. I guess.
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 09:20am
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I was looking at the new rules, but was wondering what the POE's were for the upcoming season. I did notice that there were 4 POE's but there was no statement elaborating on them. Does anybody know what the POE's are?
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Old Thu May 03, 2007, 09:53am
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I was looking at the new rules, but was wondering what the POE's were for the upcoming season. I did notice that there were 4 POE's but there was no statement elaborating on them. Does anybody know what the POE's are?
The POEs are at the bottom of the link. They do not elaborate on them at this time. They just tell you what they are.

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