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Old Mon Apr 09, 2007, 10:47pm
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Screen question with video

Not sure if this video link thingy will work. If it does, I need your input. This is where I get confused on blind screens. (#40 is my player...)
Illegal screen or foul on my player?

screened.wmv

If the link don't work...oh well, I'll try something else.
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Old Mon Apr 09, 2007, 10:50pm
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Link didn't work for me. Try re-posting the link.
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Old Mon Apr 09, 2007, 11:07pm
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I don't officiate girls games(so my opinion might not be consistent with what is or is not called) even though the rules are the same...but, in a boys NFHS game I got a "no call".

Now the depth may be different in "real life"...but, from what I can see on the video...probably a good no call.
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Old Mon Apr 09, 2007, 11:18pm
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First look at the play, I like illegal screen. The screener did not give the player enought time and distance to adjust to screen set out of sight. On more looks, I stick with my call. First look and angle of play, illegal screen.
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Old Mon Apr 09, 2007, 11:45pm
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I think its an illegal screen.
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 12:04am
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I have illegal screen. The Screener did not allow a normal step will setting the back screen.
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 12:06am
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How did you get the link to work?
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 06:07am
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Thanks for the input so far. The official said she had plenty of time to avoid the screen and called a foul on blue.

I argued it was a blind screen from behind and she only had one step.

But, we now have the advantage of slo-mo.....

I didn't do anything tjones, somehow it's just not working for you?
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 06:25am
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Thanks for the input so far. The official said she had plenty of time to avoid the screen and called a foul on blue.

I argued it was a blind screen from behind and she only had one step.
How many steps does she need?
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 06:41am
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How many steps does she need?
One step. I don't think when gold set her screen, she allowed blue for her normal step. When gold was set, blue was in the process of her step.
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 09:31am
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Certainly not a foul on blue...I would probably go with a no-call and at some point in the near future talk to that gold player about setting better screens...but no way is that a foul on blue.
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 09:35am
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First off, if you want this officiated closely, you will have to give up a foul call here and there as the official will be looking at the floor instead of the play.

I have no whistle on this play in regular time.

Oops! (I deleted a line here concerning the coach's understanding of a blind screen. After reading the coaches later response it made this line moot.)
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 09:37am
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Thanks for the input so far. The official said she had plenty of time to avoid the screen and called a foul on blue.

I argued it was a blind screen from behind and she only had one step.

But, we now have the advantage of slo-mo.....

I didn't do anything tjones, somehow it's just not working for you?
I don't even think she had a step. Either way, I wouldn't make the call on blue, and if I made a call we would be going the other way.
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 09:44am
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No call or illegal screen....


...definitely not a foul on blue.
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Old Tue Apr 10, 2007, 10:20am
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Looks like gold screener #14 shifted laterally but allowed a step, albeit a small one. As gold #30 started to drive, blue #40 closed the gap quickly at the point of impact. I go with a no call in real time, which was my gut after watching it the first time.
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