You're a men's official, huh???

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Whether you think it is true or not is not the issue. The point is there are people in positions that have that opinion and they make the decisions.

Peace

Now that comment is right on the money!!!

[jeffpea]

If you're goal is to become a men's college official, then you will be penalized (fairly or unfairly) by the assignors if you are working womens/girls games. If you really think about it, you can also be viewed differently/negatively by the college assignors (as well as coaches) if you work high school games as well. Since your credibility is on the line in every game, you don't want coaches thinking that you're a "high school official working my college game"....

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

you can also be viewed differently/negatively by the college assignors (as well as coaches) if you work high school games as well. Since your credibility is on the line in every game, you don't want coaches thinking that you're a "high school official working my college game"....

I'm sure glad that isn't the case in my area. Even our D-1 guys work HS games too. A D-2 guy was one of my first mentors and he helped me a ton. He still works HS games.

[tomegun]

In Miss. we have to do the girl's and boy's varsity every night and it reall wore on me. Forget about the fact, even though I can't , that the game fee for both is the same as the game fee I was used to for one game fee in Maryland/DC. 64 minutes of basketball just wore on me. Add some of the worst coahes (sportsmanship) that I've ever seen, the fact that we still use the OLD three-man mechanics (C is always across from table) and other things - I don't like it.
I have to be honest, I'm going to venture out this summer in hopes of adding more college conferences so I can do less high school basketball. It is partly to do with doing two games (64 minutes) a night as opposed to one game (40 minutes) a night. The other part is I - and this is just my opinion - don't get pumped for the girl's games. It isn't about me doing a good job or not working to get into position because I'm still of the mindset to reach for the perfect game. It is just about the rush, the quick play, the athletic play, the possibility of a comeback, the lack of predictability and other things. I don't hold anything against women's officials because I know some very good officials on that side. I often wonder how some officials I see went that route and how they would do on the men's side. When we talk about how women's officials are considered, does anyone ever think about the fact that they might have took the path of least resistance and the mindset that goes along with it? I know some officials who really want to be on the women's side, were told they would be better off on the women's side and who chose the women's side because they thought it would be easier to move up.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by tomegun

When we talk about how women's officials are considered, does anyone ever think about the fact that they might have took the path of least resistance and the mindset that goes along with it? I know some officials who really want to be on the women's side, were told they would be better off on the women's side and who chose the women's side because they thought it would be easier to move up.

That is the common battle cry I hear. Most officials know they can walk into a Women's college schedule and you really have to work hard for the Men's schedule. I have heard many Women's officials say this with pride. There were was an official that moved to this area this past summer from another state. He brought his girlfriend who also is an official. They both went to similar camps to get looked at. She got a full college schedule, he has not.

Peace

[RushmoreRef]

Originally Posted by tomegun

In Miss. we have to do the girl's and boy's varsity every night and it reall wore on me. Forget about the fact, even though I can't , that the game fee for both is the same as the game fee I was used to for one game fee in Maryland/DC. 64 minutes of basketball just wore on me. Add some of the worst coahes (sportsmanship) that I've ever seen, the fact that we still use the OLD three-man mechanics (C is always across from table) and other things - I don't like it.
I have to be honest, I'm going to venture out this summer in hopes of adding more college conferences so I can do less high school basketball. It is partly to do with doing two games (64 minutes) a night as opposed to one game (40 minutes) a night. The other part is I - and this is just my opinion - don't get pumped for the girl's games. It isn't about me doing a good job or not working to get into position because I'm still of the mindset to reach for the perfect game. It is just about the rush, the quick play, the athletic play, the possibility of a comeback, the lack of predictability and other things. I don't hold anything against women's officials because I know some very good officials on that side. I often wonder how some officials I see went that route and how they would do on the men's side. When we talk about how women's officials are considered, does anyone ever think about the fact that they might have took the path of least resistance and the mindset that goes along with it? I know some officials who really want to be on the women's side, were told they would be better off on the women's side and who chose the women's side because they thought it would be easier to move up.

I agree with the quicker advancement.....I know guys that are doing DI and DII NCAA women who have been in it a shorter period than guys that I work in DII NAIA men's games with.....and as much as these coordinator of officials can typecast you as a women's official, they can also limit your ascent on the men's side by simply liking one guy more than another and giving them the opportunity to climb the ladder....Unfortunately it's a classic case of "who you know not what you know".....

[mplagrow]

I got duped into doing a summer tournament at Denmark Middle School in Denmark, WI for $15 a game. I figured, small town middle school players, no big whoop.

I got there and there were two high school age teams warming up, one from Milwaukee, one from Green Bay. Not from the nice parts of town, either. It was high school boys alternating with 7th grade girls.

Talk about changing gears!