Fifth foul procedure

[OklahomaRef]

I am a referee turned coach. Today in a game, one of my players recieved his fifth foul. I was notified and told I had thirty seconds. I waited for the first horn to put my sub in (it was late and I was trying to freeze the shooter). When the horn went off I was assessed a technical. I thought there was supposed to be a warning at 20 seconds, just like a 30 second time out. Can someone please help?

[Ed Maeder]

You are correct. The 30 seconds to replace a DQ'd or injured player should be just like a thirty second time out. Warning horn at 20 seconds and final horn at 30 seconds. Rule 2-12-5

[OklahomaRef]

Thank you. Is it a direct technical or indirect technical? I got a direct earlier in the game. I need to know if I need to call our association. I don't want to have to sit the next two games. I was NOT ejected.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OklahomaRef

Thank you. Is it a direct technical or indirect technical? I got a direct earlier in the game. I need to know if I need to call our association. I don't want to have to sit the next two games. I was NOT ejected.

It's a direct technical foul charged to the head coach. The timer should have sounded a warning with 10 seconds left; but it's still up to you to get the sub there in time.

[edited to correct a big mistake]

[OklahomaRef]

How do you explain the rule 2-12-5?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OklahomaRef

How do you explain the rule 2-12-5?

By correcting my original post.

[OklahomaRef]

But if there is no warning, and it wasn't put on the scoreboard, how was I supposed to know how much time I had?

[mplagrow]

Originally Posted by OklahomaRef

But if there is no warning, and it wasn't put on the scoreboard, how was I supposed to know how much time I had?

Hey, we're not the ones that you have to sell on it.

[Adam]

I agree they should have warned you, and if I'd been there (and actually known the rule), I'd have told them to sound it after 20. Had they not, I'd have given you a few seconds to get the sub to the table if the first horn was at 30.
That said, trying to use this as a timeout to freeze the shooter comes with risk. What level ball was this?

[Ed Maeder]

Common sense should tell you that. Even if horns don't sound properly it doesn't seem like an excuse to get out of this one.

[OklahomaRef]

It was at the freshmen level. I know guys it was freshmen. I still have to do all I can do in order to win the game.

[OklahomaRef]

I had the sub, standing there waiting for the first horn. If I have to follow the rules by getting the sub in in time, doesn't the official by following correct procedure?

[Adam]

Like I said; your tactic comes with risk. Use your watch next time. Personally, I would have done it differently; but the refs were right by rule to issue you the T at the 30 second horn.
Not having the warning horn at 20 seconds is not a correctable error.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by OklahomaRef

It was at the freshmen level. I know guys it was freshmen. I still have to do all I can do in order to win the game.

I was just curious, and did not mean in any way to diminish the value of the game. However, you know full well that at this level the officials may not be fully versed in the little details of the rules. Using this time instead of a timeout to ice the shooter comes with risk; especially at this level.

[OklahomaRef]

You are right, but I don't think I should have to sit since there was an error. I'm not worried about the game, I worried about having to sit. If I was not ejected, will I have to sit?