They just tossed the coach....

[Old School]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If more lower level coaches got thrown out, it might help all levels of basketball when coaches are acting out.

Disagree, IMHO. Vertaran coaches know what they can and can not get away with. It also gets back to who's working the games. Some of us can put up with more than others. Take me for example; I can put up with a lot of grief, as witness to the way I am obstracized here on this forum. The problem is bigger than just ejecting lower level coaches. I think the problem rests more with the officials than the coaches at all levels. However, I will acknowledge this. A greater deed is accomplished when senior level officials like yourself JRUT go back and work lower level games. Too many of the officials that are working upper level ball, don't want to have nothing to do with lower level games anymore, IMO.

[ref18]

Even I've never had to T up a Varsity coach, at least not yet, they usually keep their benches behaved, and themselves behaved because they have experience coaching and know that they're there to coach and not complain about me.

Although the other day, doing a freshman game, I had a coach who earned a T, first T all year I think, (It's been a slow year) every time I was down by his bench, I was getting, "they're travelling, every time up the court they're travelling...etc..." after about the third time of this, I waited for a dead ball, and went to chat with the coach, telling him that his behaviour was unsporting and that if he continued we would have no choice but to issue a technical. To which he replied, "If you'd just call the travelling we wouldn't be in this mess." (Loud enough for everyone to hear, I might add) So a no brainer, I whacked him.

He didn't say a word for the remainder of the game.

And as luck would have it, I was being evaluated that game. I got kudos from the evaluator on how I handled the situation.

The moral of the story...it never hurts to take care of business.

[Ron Pilo]

In my first year of officiating I was working a G-JV game....the Varsity Coach was on the bench "just helping out"(He had a rep as being a yapper and no one really liked him, this I did not know)

Anyway about half way through the 1st quarter. he stands up and gets on us about a call.....He had been warned earlier.....I T him up.

At the end of the 1st quarter he standing up at the bench talking at me.....I just looked at him gave him the big stop sign and said that's enough coach....he kept at it so I ran him.........

At our next meeting it was announced that I ran this Varsity Coach from the JV game.......I got a standing ovation and became a legend all in one night......People still talk about it..........

[ref18]

Originally Posted by Ron Pilo

In my first year of officiating I was working a G-JV game....the Varsity Coach was on the bench "just helping out"(He had a rep as being a yapper and no one really liked him, this I did not know)

Anyway about half way through the 1st quarter. he stands up and gets on us about a call.....He had been warned earlier.....I T him up.

At the end of the 1st quarter he standing up at the bench talking at me.....I just looked at him gave him the big stop sign and said that's enough coach....he kept at it so I ran him.........

At our next meeting it was announced that I ran this Varsity Coach from the JV game.......I got a standing ovation and became a legend all in one night......People still talk about it..........

Never hurts to get a reputation for taking care of business, eh?

[Dan_ref]

Originally Posted by Ron Pilo

In my first year of officiating I was working a G-JV game....the Varsity Coach was on the bench "just helping out"(He had a rep as being a yapper and no one really liked him, this I did not know)

Anyway about half way through the 1st quarter. he stands up and gets on us about a call.....He had been warned earlier.....I T him up.

At the end of the 1st quarter he standing up at the bench talking at me.....I just looked at him gave him the big stop sign and said that's enough coach....he kept at it so I ran him.........

At our next meeting it was announced that I ran this Varsity Coach from the JV game.......I got a standing ovation and became a legend all in one night......People still talk about it..........

I got one.

In my first year I was doing a JV boys game and some old guy was sitting behind the table making comments about the officiating. At one point after a call he stands up and shouts "what are you guys doing? Let them play!!". I had him removed from the gym.

Turns out the old guy was the varsity head coach and AD at that school forever. After the JV game he lets himself into our dressing room (his office ) and lets me know who's office we are standing in and who signs my checks in that office. Unluckily for him my partner and the 2 varsity officials were there to witness what happened.

I filed a grievance with my association including a letter of complaint to the school board and the assignor. 2 months later I got a handwritten letter of apology from the old guy. Still have it too.

When he retired the following year there was a big story about him in the local paper...what a great guy he is, role model for the student-athletes, blah blah blah. I was tempted to send a letter to the editor with a copy of his signed apology. I didn't do it.

To this day I have never been back to that school.