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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 10:07am
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They just tossed the coach....

Working a boys varsity game last night about 80 miles from the ranch with a guy I've only worked with once or twice.

We got there early and watched the visiting coach get all over the JV officials. He was standing quite a bit (a no-no here, as only varsity head coaches get the 14 foot box) and was generally obnoxious.

After the third quarter, we went in to get dressed. The JV game was close when we went in, and the fourth quarter seemed to be taking forever, so I came out to see how much time was left. 2:00 and the game was tied.

Just then the site manager came up to me and said, "They just tossed the visiting coach." Really? I had yet to see a JV crew do so much as call a technical foul in five years in Wisconsin and I missed an ejection?

So I walked back to the locker room to tell my partner and as I do, I noticed the visiting team coach pacing the hallway.

Apparently, according to the site manager, he got tossed from the same teams' JV game 2 years earlier. And according to the officials, he had earned the first technical, and in response, the coach said, "You must be from (the home school's town)" and he got another one. Good ejection, but the first technical should've come in the first quarter, not the fourth.

Coaches were a bit yappy in the varsity game, but nothing sustained and nothing worth mentioning. And the ejected JV coach sat in the front row of the bleachers all by himself.
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 10:16am
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Nice job out of the JV guys!
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 11:29am
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What's the problem?

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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 12:15pm
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What's the problem?

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Oh, none. I've just never seen a JV crew around here take care of business. Most JV officials are local guys hired directly by the home team and most simply let the coaches rant and rave and completely ignore them, for better or for worse.

Mainly I was in the mood to tell a story.
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 12:50pm
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Oh, none. I've just never seen a JV crew around here take care of business. Most JV officials are local guys hired directly by the home team and most simply let the coaches rant and rave and completely ignore them, for better or for worse.

Mainly I was in the mood to tell a story.
I know there was not a problem. I was just making light of the situation a little bit (I did throw out a Freshman Coach on Monday as well). If more lower level coaches got thrown out, it might help all levels of basketball when coaches are acting out.

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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 02:54pm
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I, like a lot of you, enforce sportsmanship a little tougher at the lower level. I still work a full Freshman-JV schedule as well as my full Varsity schedule and handful of JUCO games (I'm a single guy so I might as well be out there making some money doing what I love) and I probably throw twice as many T's in the lower level games. My only ejections in my career (1 coach, player and fan) to this point have all taken place in lower level games.
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Old Wed Jan 17, 2007, 04:37pm
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If more lower level coaches got thrown out, it might help all levels of basketball when coaches are acting out.
JR a truer statement I have not seen in printed here in quite awhile!
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Old Thu Jan 18, 2007, 05:08pm
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If more lower level coaches got thrown out, it might help all levels of basketball when coaches are acting out.
Disagree, IMHO. Vertaran coaches know what they can and can not get away with. It also gets back to who's working the games. Some of us can put up with more than others. Take me for example; I can put up with a lot of grief, as witness to the way I am obstracized here on this forum. The problem is bigger than just ejecting lower level coaches. I think the problem rests more with the officials than the coaches at all levels. However, I will acknowledge this. A greater deed is accomplished when senior level officials like yourself JRUT go back and work lower level games. Too many of the officials that are working upper level ball, don't want to have nothing to do with lower level games anymore, IMO.

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Old Thu Jan 18, 2007, 08:06pm
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Oh, none. I've just never seen a JV crew around here take care of business. Most JV officials are local guys hired directly by the home team and most simply let the coaches rant and rave and completely ignore them, for better or for worse.
We almost T'd the home JV coach on Tuesday. The AD said we did a good job of staring him down once or twice. Varisty games for me!!!
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Old Thu Jan 18, 2007, 08:23pm
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We almost T'd the home JV coach on Tuesday. The AD said we did a good job of staring him down once or twice.
Staring a coach down?

Are you serious?
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