force out call ?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by dave30

1)To me advantage/disadvantage does apply when you give the ball to a team out of bounds when bumped slightly.

2)Team throws ball in, player lifts foot up slightly before putting ball down to dribble in own backcourt with no press and no defensive player in sight. If you call a travel there, you are just bogging down the game on a useless call.

3)Player receives an inbounds pass, defense very lightly bumps into him not affecting the player at all. I would rather pass on the slight foul and allow the offensive player to work inside since he has the ball where he wanted the ball in the first place.

1) To me, you're completely wrong and you're also making up your own rules. May I suggest that you read POE 5A on p69 of this year's NFHS rule book. The FED rulesmakers put this POE in with officials like you in mind.

2) Interesting. Do you also advocate also not calling a dribbler OOB if he steps on a sideline with no pressure too? That's another useless call, isn't it? Isn't that exactly the same type of situation----> a violation with no one around? Or if you disagree, does that mean that you advocate picking and choosing what violations you might feel like calling at any particular time during a game?

3) I would certainly hope that you would pass on that contact and not call it a foul. Contact that doesn't affect a player isn't a foul. Says so right in NFHS rule 4-27-3--"Similarly, contact which does not hinder the opponent from participating in normal defensive or offensive movements should be considered incidental".