force out call ?

[bbcowboy]

In the Ky v Louisville NCAA game today, a L player made a move to the baseline and a K defensive man was moving with him. The L player last touched the ball as it went out of bounds.

The ball went out of bounds. According to the announcers (Billy Packer) the official called "force out" and awarded the ball to Louisville.

No foul was called.

I thought that it was either a foul or out of bounds. No such call as "force out" at this level.

Now in my backyard as a kid, we had "force out"s.

Any thoughts?

[Jurassic Referee]

Thoughts? Yup, Billy Packer is an idiot. You cannot take any statement that he makes re: rules seriously. Ever. He is noted for not knowing the rules. The call that was made was probably an out-of-bounds call, as you said, but off the Kentucky player.

[refnrev]

Originally Posted by bbcowboy

(Billy Packer)
Any thoughts?

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'Nuf said.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by bbcowboy

In the Ky v Louisville NCAA game today, a L player made a move to the baseline and a K defensive man was moving with him. The L player last touched the ball as it went out of bounds.

The ball went out of bounds. According to the announcers (Billy Packer) the official called "force out" and awarded the ball to Louisville.

No foul was called.

I thought that it was either a foul or out of bounds. No such call as "force out" at this level.

Now in my backyard as a kid, we had "force out"s.

Any thoughts?

Pay no attention to anything that the idiot known as Packer says.

[mick]

Originally Posted by bbcowboy

In the Ky v Louisville NCAA game today, a L player made a move to the baseline and a K defensive man was moving with him. The L player last touched the ball as it went out of bounds.

The ball went out of bounds. According to the announcers (Billy Packer) the official called "force out" and awarded the ball to Louisville.

No foul was called.

I thought that it was either a foul or out of bounds. No such call as "force out" at this level.

Now in my backyard as a kid, we had "force out"s.

Any thoughts?

I truely believe that the "force out" is an employed, accepted and unspoken [by others] method of apology for a missed push that that wasn't enough to call (as a foul), but still caused the offense to lose the ball.

[Nevadaref]

The force-out was an old rule from the NBA. They did away with it several years ago. That is why you have heard of it. As others have said Packer is an idiot, but additionally the little toad is also d@mn old. Therefore, he was around during the days when the NBA force-out rule was in effect. He just never bothered to learn that it no longer exists.

[bigdogrunnin]

Billy Packer = Mute Button!

[BTTB]

The answer to your question Mr. bbcowboy is that this particular situation, which is very common, is almost routinely miscalled (at least in the PAC-10). The rules call for either a change of possession or a foul. Invariably, neither is called.

Billy Packer was perhaps describing the extra-legal resolution of the situation as "forced-out" but he's not responsible for enforcing the rule. Some posters in this forum just don't like Billy Packer, that's all.

BTTB

[BktBallRef]

That's true. I don't like Billy Packer.

It's true that there's no such thing as a forceout.

Finally, it's also true that there are a lot of moronic fans who don't understand officiating, the rules or how to apply them.

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by mick

I truely believe that the "force out" is an employed, accepted and unspoken [by others] method of apology for a missed push that that wasn't enough to call (as a foul), but still caused the offense to lose the ball.

Insert picture of hammer hitting nail on head....

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally Posted by BTTB

Some posters in this forum just don't like Billy Packer, that's all.

BTTB

You're response would imply that some posters here do like Billy Packer. I wouldn't put money on that

[canuckrefguy]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

You're response would imply that some posters here do like Billy Packer. I wouldn't put money on that

I think what he's implying is that, for once, Packer maybe got it right, and that people on this board would rather slam their hand in a car door than admit that.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

I think what he's implying is that, for once, Packer maybe got it right, and that people on this board would rather slam their hand in a car door than admit that.

Now that's a little harsh. The choice wouldn't be quite so easy as you imply.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BTTB

[FONT="Arial Narrow"][B]The answer to your question Mr. bbcowboy is that this particular situation, which is very common, is almost routinely miscalled (at least in the PAC-10). The rules call for either a change of possession or a foul. Invariably, neither is called.

Billy Packer was perhaps describing the extra-legal resolution of the situation as "forced-out" but he's not responsible for enforcing the rule. Some posters in this forum just don't like Billy Packer, that's all.

What are your credentials to state that PAC10 officials routinely and invariably miscall this play?

1) NCAA D1 official?
2) Fanboy who has never officiated a game in his life?

I await your response. From your previous posts however, until then I think that I'll go with Door #2.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by canuckrefguy

I think what he's implying is that, for once, Packer maybe got it right, and that people on this board would rather slam their hand in a car door than admit that.

Are you serious? Mr. Packer was correct when he said the official called a "force-out"? The official may have booted the call or may have given the ball back to A1 b/c he missed the foul or didn't want to call a foul. But that offiicial did not call a "force out", I guarantee you that.