Block, Charge or Both!!!

[Teigan]

Last Season, I was heard about a call in a game. There was a block/charge that occured in what would have been right smack in the middle of the key. Lead sells a block. Trail sells a charge. They get together, and give both players, both respective fouls.....Yes they did...Blue 4-Charge, and White 4-Block, on the same play. My question is, is there any set of basketball rules FIBA, NFHS, NCAA, that allow this.

[Jurassic Referee]

NFHS and NCAA Mens rules allow double fouls on block/charges. NCAA Women and the NBA(I think) don't.

FIBA? Don't know.

[Teigan]

So this is possible. A player driving to the hoop, and the defender can both be charged with fouls???

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Teigan

So this is possible. A player driving to the hoop, and the defender can both be charged with fouls???

Not only possible, it happens. See another recent thread re:blarges. That's what they're called. They're were several called in NCAA mens games on tv last night.

[tjones1]

Check out 4.19.8 in Fed. Some interesting stuff can happen both ways. Even more if the shot doesn't go in.

[Daryl H. Long]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Not only possible, it happens. See another recent thread re:blarges. That's what they're called. They're were several called in NCAA mens games on tv last night.

JR is right on who "allows" blarges to be called and the thread he refers to is good reading.

While I acknowledge the rulings in NF case 4.19.8 Sit C and NCAA A.R. 159 are there I do not acknowledge they are right based on rule. Flat out I believe they are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Read the other string to find out why.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Teigan

Last Season, I was heard about a call in a game. There was a block/charge that occured in what would have been right smack in the middle of the key. Lead sells a block. Trail sells a charge. They get together, and give both players, both respective fouls.....Yes they did...Blue 4-Charge, and White 4-Block, on the same play. My question is, is there any set of basketball rules FIBA, NFHS, NCAA, that allow this.

FIBA rules allow this and it is treated exactly like a double foul.

IMO, when a blarge occurs, officials are not doing their best, to say the least.

By the way, what's the etymology of blarge?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

NFHS and NCAA Mens rules allow double fouls on block/charges. NCAA Women and the NBA (I think) don't.

I think the NBA does allow for the "Difference of Opinion Between Officials". Charge both fouls and administer a jump ball between any two players in the game in the free throw jump circle.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

By the way, what's the etymology of blarge?

Pretty simple, actually. BLock + chARGE = BLARGE

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

By the way, what's the etymology of blarge?

This is known as a portmanteau word. Better-known examples include 'brunch', 'smog', and 'motel'.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mbyron

This is known as a portmanteau word. Better-known examples include 'brunch', 'smog', and 'motel'.

You think you can come into this forum tossing around big words like you are some sort of AnnoyingGrammarGuy or something.

[IREFU2]

Hmmm, Block/Charge...the never ending saga!!!!! Its just a plain old double foul people!!!! No prelims, no blarges!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You think you can come into this forum tossing around big words like you are some sort of AnnoyingGrammarGuy or something.

Hey, they never complained about "big words" over on the baseball side. Besides, I wasn't the one who queried about etymology...

[rainmaker]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Hey, they never complained about "big words" over on the baseball side. Besides, I wasn't the one who queried about etymology...

Don't take it personally, Byron (wasn't there another Byron who was a word person somewhere in English lit?!?!). We're all still grieving the loss of our previous Mr. Annoying Grammar/Spelling/Vocabulary Guy who has passed on to a better world of dressing rooms with nice towels and hot water (namely D1). In time, as our wounds heal, we'll be ready to start courting new Grammar people. Perhaps you'd be willing to wait around and catch us on the rebound?

[crazy voyager]

I have seen this called in a game two years ago. Defender had bad position, but the ball handler used his elbow. The official called a double foul, I think it was a good call.

So yes FIBA allows double fouls on this, as on evrything else