Block, Charge or Both!!!

[Teigan]

Last Season, I was heard about a call in a game. There was a block/charge that occured in what would have been right smack in the middle of the key. Lead sells a block. Trail sells a charge. They get together, and give both players, both respective fouls.....Yes they did...Blue 4-Charge, and White 4-Block, on the same play. My question is, is there any set of basketball rules FIBA, NFHS, NCAA, that allow this.

[Jurassic Referee]

NFHS and NCAA Mens rules allow double fouls on block/charges. NCAA Women and the NBA(I think) don't.

FIBA? Don't know.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

NFHS and NCAA Mens rules allow double fouls on block/charges. NCAA Women and the NBA (I think) don't.

I think the NBA does allow for the "Difference of Opinion Between Officials". Charge both fouls and administer a jump ball between any two players in the game in the free throw jump circle.

[btaylor64]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

I think the NBA does allow for the "Difference of Opinion Between Officials". Charge both fouls and administer a jump ball between any two players in the game in the free throw jump circle.

Difference of opinions in the NBA is used on things like out of bounds plays when one points one way and the other points the opposite. At that time they will call a jump ball and jump it at half court, not the nearest free throw lane.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by btaylor64

Difference of opinions in the NBA is used on things like out of bounds plays when one points one way and the other points the opposite. At that time they will call a jump ball and jump it at half court, not the nearest free throw lane.

Good catch on both points. I knew I was right about the blarge situation, but I forgot about the out of bounds situation. Although I saw this administered in the free throw jump circle in a WNBA game once. But the NBA case book does say to do it at center court.

[Teigan]

So this is possible. A player driving to the hoop, and the defender can both be charged with fouls???

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Teigan

So this is possible. A player driving to the hoop, and the defender can both be charged with fouls???

Not only possible, it happens. See another recent thread re:blarges. That's what they're called. They're were several called in NCAA mens games on tv last night.

[tjones1]

Check out 4.19.8 in Fed. Some interesting stuff can happen both ways. Even more if the shot doesn't go in.

[Daryl H. Long]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Not only possible, it happens. See another recent thread re:blarges. That's what they're called. They're were several called in NCAA mens games on tv last night.

JR is right on who "allows" blarges to be called and the thread he refers to is good reading.

While I acknowledge the rulings in NF case 4.19.8 Sit C and NCAA A.R. 159 are there I do not acknowledge they are right based on rule. Flat out I believe they are wrong, wrong, wrong.

Read the other string to find out why.

[eg-italy]

Originally Posted by Teigan

Last Season, I was heard about a call in a game. There was a block/charge that occured in what would have been right smack in the middle of the key. Lead sells a block. Trail sells a charge. They get together, and give both players, both respective fouls.....Yes they did...Blue 4-Charge, and White 4-Block, on the same play. My question is, is there any set of basketball rules FIBA, NFHS, NCAA, that allow this.

FIBA rules allow this and it is treated exactly like a double foul.

IMO, when a blarge occurs, officials are not doing their best, to say the least.

By the way, what's the etymology of blarge?

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

By the way, what's the etymology of blarge?

Pretty simple, actually. BLock + chARGE = BLARGE

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by eg-italy

By the way, what's the etymology of blarge?

This is known as a portmanteau word. Better-known examples include 'brunch', 'smog', and 'motel'.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mbyron

This is known as a portmanteau word. Better-known examples include 'brunch', 'smog', and 'motel'.

You think you can come into this forum tossing around big words like you are some sort of AnnoyingGrammarGuy or something.

[IREFU2]

Hmmm, Block/Charge...the never ending saga!!!!! Its just a plain old double foul people!!!! No prelims, no blarges!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

You think you can come into this forum tossing around big words like you are some sort of AnnoyingGrammarGuy or something.

Hey, they never complained about "big words" over on the baseball side. Besides, I wasn't the one who queried about etymology...