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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 10:46am
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Backcourt/On the jump

During the opening jump ball the ball is tipped into team A's frontcourt. A3 tries to track down the ball as it is going out of bounds. He jumps and secures the ball with one hand and tosses it into the backcourt where A2 retrieves the ball.

Backcourt Violation or not?
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 11:01am
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During the opening jump ball the ball is tipped into team A's frontcourt. A3 tries to track down the ball as it is going out of bounds. He jumps and secures the ball with one hand and tosses it into the backcourt where A2 retrieves the ball.

Backcourt Violation or not?

The key is "he secures control." This establishes team control in frontcourt. Thus, when ball is first touched in backcourt by a teammate, it is a violation.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 11:20am
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Team Control is off during a jump but is back on when a player establishes control.

A player is in control only when holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds.

If a3 established player (team) control in the front court you have a violation.

If he just slapped the ball into the back court - I think I got nothing because player control was never established.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 11:37am
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The jump ball exception allows a player to catch the tapped ball in flight and land in the FC or BC. No other exception is given.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 12:04pm
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What happened

I was U2, I was becoming the center the player cupped the ball and throw it into the backcourt I thought it should have been over and back the trail did not call it. We talked about it at the half and thought it was missed.
It was last year, won't let it happen this year.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 12:22pm
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Team Control is off during a jump but is back on when a player establishes control.

A player is in control only when holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds.

If a3 established player (team) control in the front court you have a violation.

If he just slapped the ball into the back court - I think I got nothing because player control was never established.
I gotta agree with Larks. Unless A establishes control of the ball by holding it in his hand, its nothing.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 12:28pm
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Originally Posted by PIAA REF
I was U2, I was becoming the center the player cupped the ball and throw it into the backcourt I thought it should have been over and back the trail did not call it. We talked about it at the half and thought it was missed.
It was last year, won't let it happen this year.
So it's up to your judgment whether what you saw met the definition of "holding" the ball. In your position, I'd have probably done the same as you, namely, waited to see what someone else thought!
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 12:55pm
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Originally Posted by PIAA REF
I was U2, I was becoming the center the player cupped the ball and throw it into the backcourt I thought it should have been over and back the trail did not call it. We talked about it at the half and thought it was missed.
It was last year, won't let it happen this year.
When in doubt on this type of play, I would err on the side of saying control was NOT established and that there is no violation.
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 03:07pm
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The jump ball exception allows a player to catch the tapped ball in flight and land in the FC or BC. No other exception is given.
Hey Tony,
What if on this play, A3 had jumped from his frontcourt, caught the ball in the air, and then landed in his backcourt?
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Old Tue Oct 31, 2006, 03:20pm
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The original post said he "secures the ball." The word secure indicates control. If so, it is clearly a violation.
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