Designated Throw in Spot violation Rule 7-62

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by sfcjdb

Rule 7-6-2 states that "The Thrower shall not leave the designated throw in spot until the ball has been released on a throw in pass." It also referances Rule 4-42-6, which says the same thing but adds that the pivot foot and traveling rule are not in effect. So the question is as a referee what signal is used, I could not find any referance to it in the book.

It's in the rule book....under "SIGNALS" at the back(surprise, surprise ). See signal #25- "Free throw, designated spot, or other violation"

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[euby]

I had one last year that threw me...its a really tight gym in a middle school game and the bleachers were maybe 2 feet off the boundry line.

I give the kid the ball for a spot throw in along the sideline and the kid jumps up on the first row of bleachers to throw it in. Of course I tweet and call a violation...coach goes off (he had obviously done this before) and says its within the confines of throw in rules. I just told him to have a seat and enjoy the game.

What is your ruling?

[SamIAm]

Originally Posted by euby

I had one last year that threw me...its a really tight gym in a middle school game and the bleachers were maybe 2 feet off the boundry line.

I give the kid the ball for a spot throw in along the sideline and the kid jumps up on the first row of bleachers to throw it in. Of course I tweet and call a violation...coach goes off (he had obviously done this before) and says its within the confines of throw in rules. I just told him to have a seat and enjoy the game.

What is your ruling?

You should have moved the defender back 3 feet, giving the in-bounder 5 feet to move back if he chooses.


edited in later -
Per euby's response below, I would whistle up a throw-in violation.

[euby]

The defender was double teaming the other guard...he wasn't anywhere near the throw in spot.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by euby

I had one last year that threw me...its a really tight gym in a middle school game and the bleachers were maybe 2 feet off the boundry line.

I give the kid the ball for a spot throw in along the sideline and the kid jumps up on the first row of bleachers to throw it in. Of course I tweet and call a violation...coach goes off (he had obviously done this before) and says its within the confines of throw in rules. I just told him to have a seat and enjoy the game.

What is your ruling?

Violation.

That was a topic of a thread here a few years ago. The consensus was that the thrower could back up to the stands, but climbing into the stands gave him an unfair advantage not intended under the rules.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Violation.

That was a topic of a thread here a few years ago. The consensus was that the thrower could back up to the stands, but climbing into the stands gave him an unfair advantage not intended under the rules.

I don't know. It's not explicitly forbidden, so it can't be a violation, can it.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I don't know. It's not explicitly forbidden, so it can't be a violation, can it.

Good point....smartazz.

Designated spot throw ins

Note that officials far smarter than I am- Mick and BktBallRef- said that it's illegal.

[Jimgolf]

Wouldn't going into the stands consitute an unauthorized leaving of the floor?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

Wouldn't going into the stands consitute an unauthorized leaving of the floor?

Nope, for the purposes of the pertinent rule-- R.9-3 and casebook play 9.3.2SitD --the "floor" is considered as being as being the playing court in-bounds.