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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 02:58pm
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***If I am a supervisor I would ask why do we have 2 pair of eyes on a 3 point attempt!

I work for several different college supervisors, and have NEVER been asked that question in relation to fixing a 3/2 point shot...their concern is always that we - as a crew - get the call right.

And Chuck, I believe we've already established that you are definitely NOT elitist.
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 03:02pm
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...their concern is always that we - as a crew - get the call right.
Gee, somehow I can kinda agree with them too.

Do they really care how you get the call right?
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 03:48pm
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Gee, somehow I can kinda agree with them too.

Do they really care how you get the call right?
Not particularly - speaking of this particular play, anyway. My main supervisor has stated repeatedly "Just fix it and keep the damn game going."
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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 04:07pm
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I want it both ways.

In my experience these things have happened to me:
  1. Partner wasn't sure and looked to me.
  2. Partner neither signaled 'three', nor signaled 'close two'.
In those instances, I do not need to have a discussion with partner. I can simply signal my partner, or I can tell the table that "The last shot was a three."
There is no reason for anything else.

If it ever happens that my partner signals (two or three) points, the number of which I definitively disagree, then I would feel remiss if I did not blow the whistle and ask my partner to rethink his call. This is why:
  • My whistle, shortly after my partner's signal, should closely correspond with the timing of the reaction (of the fans, players and coaches). With the dead ball and a quick chat, I have just enabled my partner (and crew) avoid an *Owee*.
More often than not (my games), it is has been pre-gamed that if one partner goes to another partner for "anything", then a call will be changed (for good or bad) because there will be no lenghty discussion out on the floor. It is the singular responsibilty of the partner (who suggests the change) to be right.

I have had instances when a partner (who is listening to a coach or fans) has stopped a game and told me that "they" (coaches, fans) thought differently. That really irks me, but other than that it changes nothing, except for noting the trust that my partner has for me.

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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 03:14pm
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Some people need to actually read the CCA Mechanics books. The center of the court is considered a dual area for 3 point shots. At least that is the way it is on the Men's side. So yes, two officials might rule on a 3 point attempt.

Also the way JR wants a dispute to be handled on shots that are either 2 or 3 point shots is totally against every way I have been told to handle those conflicts. In every college camp I have attended (and HS camp as well) over the past few years. We have been taught to just correct it without a conference. You also only correct a shot when you are 100% sure you have something different. If you are not sure, you leave it alone.

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Old Wed Sep 27, 2006, 03:18pm
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I work for several different college supervisors, and have NEVER been asked that question in relation to fixing a 3/2 point shot...their concern is always that we - as a crew - get the call right.
In fact you're more likely to hear "HOW COME NO ONE CAUGHT THAT??!!!!"
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And Chuck, I believe we've already established that you are definitely NOT elitist.
errrr...is "tall" an alternate meaning for elitist?
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