Post Play
Do you allow a defender to get an elbow up on the post player if he is not pushing in any fashion??? Just leaning into each other a little?? or do you not allow anything?? Varsity boys...Thanks
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In a college game, I will allow the forearm in the post if the two players are simply leaning on each other. If there is some jockeying for position, then I usually try to clean it up by saying "straight up!" Once the ball is in the post, no forearm, period. In a HS game, no forearm in the post. I use "straight up" right away, whether they are just leaning or not. If they don't clean it up, it gets a whistle and a quick, "no arm-bars" to the coach if s/he asks. |
Post play is something that should be addressed early in a game. The first time a team sets up; it is clear what the players are likely to do during the game. I will not allow any arm bar during a game without being talked out of, or just calling fouls. I would not allow this even in a college game because the people I work for think this is a foul considering the position of the NCAA and POEs that have come out in recent years.
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What you are describing I let go if both post players can handle the contact. |
This is hard because NFHS just puts this in their POE section every 1 out of 10 years, and college does not have great guidelines either.
In HS the norm seems to be that you can't put a forearm on a player regardless of whether you are using it to just hold your position or not, which I personally think is wrong, because the advantage is fully to the offensive player now because it makes it harder for the defensive player to hold his ground. JMO though. In the college game the status quo seems to be that a forearm is ok until the post player who has the ball starts to dribble on a back down, which again I think puts the defender at a disadvantage, but you know what they say, "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." |
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Peace |
First , this is an excellent question & u can already see it carries several different opinions.Great topic to cover in pre game and at half time. Looking at it from the college, this is a form of hand checking. Very much so in the post. Without the ball I will allow him to have it there but not to guide but to brace or "feel". With the ball, only to brace for initial contact then drop it (to brace) any movement by the offense to make a offensive move with the elbow on-defensive foul.
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Pregame Conference Re: Post Play
Here's what I discuss with my partner in our pregame conference regarding post play:
Post Play - Let’s not allow a defender to use a forearm on a player with the ball. - Let’s not allow a defender to use a leg or knee to move a player off the block. - Let’s make sure the offensive player isn’t holding off the defender, or holding him with his off-hand. - As Lead, let’s find the post matchup as soon as possible so that we get the first foul. - Remember the RIDD’s. Don’t let players: Redirect, Impede, Displace,or Dislodge. |
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From an old but still valid NFHS POE on <b>ROUGH PLAY</b>:- <i>"Use of a forearm, regardless of the duration of the contact, is a FOUL".</i> |
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