Was there a resolution in Kentucky?

[Kevzebra]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

Absolutely. No doubt about it. The official should have the sense to recuse himself if assigned to the game. I find it hard to believe you think this is "silly". Imagine a state championship game where a foul is called with no time left and someone from the official's alma mater is shooting 3 to win the game. Heads would roll.

Also if one of the teams is from his current home town, even if (or especially if) it's his alma mater's arch rival. Imagine the situation above where it's his alma mater's arch rival and there is no call.

This is not a question of integrity of the official, it is a question of integrity of the game. There should never be any hint of favoritism.

We were not talking about a state tourney game. Those are chosen by the commissioner and any association with the schools (went there, wife works there, in your region, in a region you used to be in) you are not on that game. Harder to do when you deal with people in a region. But I agree that the official can use good judgement and ask for a switch.

We had one in our state tourney this year. One of the guys used to work in one of the regions that had a game saturday. He was one of the best (if not THE best) official at the tourney. He sat out the Semis and finals!

[BktBallRef]

I have a problem with people who attack me simply because I disagree with them. You were acting like a prick in this thread, long before I acknowledged it.

BTW, you should re-read my reply as I edited and gave you some helpful spelling and grammer tips.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

Absolutely. No doubt about it. The official should have the sense to recuse himself if assigned to the game. I find it hard to believe you think this is "silly". Imagine a state championship game where a foul is called with no time left and someone from the official's alma mater is shooting 3 to win the game. Heads would roll.

Also if one of the teams is from his current home town, even if (or especially if) it's his alma mater's arch rival. Imagine the situation above where it's his alma mater's arch rival and there is no call.

This is not a question of integrity of the official, it is a question of integrity of the game. There should never be any hint of favoritism.

Thank you, Jim. Some people are way out in left field on this one.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Jimgolf

This is not a question of integrity of the official, it is a question of integrity of the game. There should never be any hint of favoritism.

Do you remember what happen about 2 seasons ago to Rick Hartzell? Rick Hartzell is a D1 official who happens to be the Athletic Director of Northern Iowa. Hartzell works in the Big Ten and was working a Wisconsin-Indiana game. Well the school he worked at was on the bubble late in the season as well as Indiana. He made a call against Indiana that was critical in the game and Indiana eventually lost. Hartzell was accused by an ESPN commentator of not making a critical call for Indiana, because Hartzell's school would benefit from the lost of a team in another conference, in an unrelated situation all because he happens to be the AD of this other school. Now this story was a national story and the ESPN Commentator even apologized for most of his statements.

The point if they want to find bias, they will find an appearance of bias just about anywhere. I can tell you as an African-American, suburban official, the issues of bias come up all the time where I live. If I work a game between an all-Black team verses a largely white school that is from the suburbs, you should hear the comments from the stands that suggest that myself or my partners (who can be white) have something against one of the teams based on something that may or may not be a factor. Being an alum of a school is not the only bias out there or the only bias someone can make an issue out of. As a matter of fact where I live what school you attended is almost never as much of an issue as the bias people have accused of based on race and city vs. suburban issue. Or even city public school vs. city Catholic school.

Peace

[zebraman]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

Thank you, Jim. Some people are way out in left field on this one.

If I took myself off of every game where someone might think I was bias, I might not ever ref. I ref my alma mater occaisionally. I see some of our coaches at the golf course. I've even golfed with a few of them in the yearly ref golf tournament. One former coach was my high school algebra teacher. I ref at the HS in the town where I live. I will be reffing at the Community College where I attended this year. Where would it end?

I once had a coach accuse me of favoritism because he knew that my wife worked in the town where I was reffing.

[ChuckElias]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I edited and gave you some helpful spelling and grammer tips.

Oops.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by ChuckElias

Oops.

Well....this might be kinda appropriate:


Wonder if Tiny is gonna call me a "prick" too now.....

[Kevzebra]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

I have a problem with people who attack me simply because I disagree with them. You were acting like a prick in this thread, long before I acknowledged it.

BTW, you should re-read my reply as I edited and gave you some helpful spelling and grammer tips.

As one can see by this entire thread, it is all a matter of ones opinion. I acted ill mannered due to the fact that you were offended by my comments. I was neither a **** nor offensive in my opinion, until you decided to comment on something that I perceived to be offensive to me.

In closing, calling me a **** does little to me. I KNOW I am a *** at times...we all are including the person that you look at in the mirror in the morning.

[Kevzebra]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

BTW, the word is spelled c-o-n-d-e-m-n, not c-o-n-d-e-m. Also, you should have used the plural form of "feeling," which is "feelings."

One is allowed two typing errors per document and still make an "A" in typing class! You flunked!

[mick]

....due South