Hand Checking guidelines

[M&M Guy]

Dang it Chuck, you type faster than me!

However, I will disagree with your coughing spell. This is directly out of NCAA-W as well - armbars are legal on a post player with their back to the basket, as long as there is no displacement. However, armbars are not allowed on a ball-handler away from the basket, and once the post player has the ball and turns to face the basket, the armbar must come off.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

However, armbars are not allowed on a ball-handler away from the basket, and once the post player has the ball and turns to face the basket, the armbar must come off.

Arm bars are not legal in NCAA-Men's basketball. Do not tell Z this; he might get upset if this is pointed out.

Peace

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Arm bars are not legal in NCAA-Men's basketball. Do not tell Z this; he might get upset if this is pointed out.

Peace

Arm Bars are illegal NCAA-M??? Does you TV get Big Ten or Big East games on ESPN, they let much worse than Arm Bars go!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RonRef

Arm Bars are illegal NCAA-M???

Yes, if the defender keeps it on, or if he prevents a post player of attaining/maintaining a legal offensive position. The NCAA rulesmakers want it called. Whether it actually is a whole 'nother matter.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RonRef

Arm Bars are illegal NCAA-M??? Does you TV get Big Ten or Big East games on ESPN, they let much worse than Arm Bars go!

You must not watch a lot of Big Ten basketball. Not only do I live in a region where Big Ten Basketball is king, I attend the Big Ten Tournament every year for the last 6 years or so. I saw many times there was a call when a defender puts their arm on the post player. This also was a POE last season as well.

I cannot speak for the Big East. I do not see a lot of those games.

Peace

[RonRef]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

You must not watch a lot of Big Ten basketball. Not only do I live in a region where Big Ten Basketball is king, I attend the Big Ten Tournament every year for the last 6 years or so. I saw many times there was a call when a defender puts their arm on the post player. This also was a POE last season as well.

I cannot speak for the Big East. I do not see a lot of those games.

Peace

JRut,

I also live right in the middle of Big Ten Country and it is really hard to follow game to game what is allowed (contact) and what is a foul.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RonRef

JRut,

I also live right in the middle of Big Ten Country and it is really hard to follow game to game what is allowed (contact) and what is a foul.

Problem number one is you expect the same contact from game to game. All teams in the Big Ten do you have the same talent or the same style of play. You are never going to accomplish that with different sets of officials working every night.

Peace

[David B]

Originally Posted by RonRef

JRut,

I also live right in the middle of Big Ten Country and it is really hard to follow game to game what is allowed (contact) and what is a foul.

That's the problem in the SEC also. From night to night its very hard to see any real continuity from the officials.

I'm sure that a lot of that has to do with senority though since many of the senior officials can just about call how they want and get away with it.

Thansk
David